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  1. Trautloft

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    Hi! i think the requests belong to this section,i have a few.
    i'd like to know the characteristics (especially highest speed,production numbers,range,armament,crew,service) maybe losses of following ac, and if possible, pictures both in air or water(since many of them are seaplanes).im thankful for any info and pic

    -the Saro Lerwick and London
    -the Vickers Vildebeest
    -the Supermarine Stanraer and Sea Otter
    -the Westland Whirlwhind (i like this plane a lot,but not much info about it.i know it been designed specially for the useageof the peregrine engines looking similar to the mossie and it supposed to have the same objectives.but why isnt it that known,and why only 114been produced?i am confused because some sources say it een a bad aircraft and the peregrine engines suffered of unreliability and weaknesses,other say the plane at all werent that bad and even succesful in the short operation time.so i ask you,experts:p )
     
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    RE the whirlybird she was a fantastic design and wicked fast for her day, she could have been on of the greats of the war but it was the engines that let hher down but no she didn't do too badly in the ops she did perform........
     
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    Saro Lerwick

    Number built: 21

    Crew: 6
    Length: 63 ft 7 in (19.4 m)
    Wingspan: 80 ft 10 in (24.7 m)
    Height: 20 ft 0 in (6.1 m)
    Wing area: 845 ft² (78.5 m²)
    Empty weight: lb (kg)
    Loaded weight: 28,400 lb (12,880 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 33,200 lb (15,060 kg)
    Powerplant: 2× Bristol Hercules II radial engine, 1,375 hp (1,030 kW) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 214 mph @ 6,250 ft (344 km/h @ 1,900 m)
    Range: miles (km)
    Service ceiling: 14,000 ft (4,270 m)
    Rate of climb: 880 ft/min (4.50 m/s)
    Armament
    1 × 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers K, 6 × Browning
    2,000 lb (900 kg) bombs or depth charges

    Saro London

    Number Built: 31

    Crew: 5
    First Flight: March, 1934
    Entered Service: 1936
    Manufacturer: Saunders-Roe Ltd

    Dimensions
    Length 56 ft 6 in 17.2 m
    Wingspan (upper) 80 ft 0 in 24.4 m
    Wingspan (lower) 56 ft 0 in 17.0 m
    Height 18 ft 9 in 5.7 m
    Wing area 1,425 ft² 132.4 m²
    Weights
    Empty 11,100 lb 5,030 kg
    Loaded 18,400 lb 8,340 kg
    Maximum takeoff 22,000 lb 9,980 kg
    Powerplant
    Engine 2 × Bristol Pegasus X
    Power (each) 915 hp 680 kW
    Performance
    Maximum speed 155 mph @ 6,250 ft 249 km/h @ 1,900 m
    Combat range 1,100 miles 1,770 km
    Ferry range 1,740 miles 2,800 km
    Service ceiling 13,300 ft 4,050 m
    Rate of climb 1,180 ft/min 360 m/min
    Armament
    Guns 3 × Lewis guns
    Bombs 2,000 lb (900 kg) of bombs, mines or depth charges

    Vickers Vildebeest

    Number Built: 90 and 62 Vincents also were built.

    General characteristics
    Crew: three, pilot, navigator, and observer
    Length: 36 ft 8 in (11.18 m)
    Wingspan: 49 ft 0 in (14.94 m)
    Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m)
    Wing area: 728 ft² (68 m²)
    Empty weight: 4,773 lb (2,165 kg)
    Loaded weight: 8,500 lb (3,856 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: lb (kg)
    Powerplant: 1× Bristol Pegasus II-M3 radial, 635 hp (474 kW)
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 143 mph (230 km/h)
    Range: 630 miles (1,014 km)
    Service ceiling: 17,000 ft (5,182 m)
    Rate of climb: 630 ft/min (3.2 m/s)
    Wing loading: 12 lb/ft² (57 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.07 hp/lb (0.12 kW/kg)
    Armament
    1× fixed, forward-firing .303 Vickers machine gun
    1× flexible, rearward-firing .303 Lewis machine gun
    1,000 lb (454 kg) of bombs or
    1 × 18 in (457 mm) torpedo

    Supermarine Stranraer

    Number Built: 57

    Crew: 6-7
    Length: 54 ft 9 in (16.7 m)
    Wingspan: 85 ft 0 in (25.9 m)
    Height: 21 ft 9 in (6.6 m)
    Wing area: 1,457 ft² (135.4 m²)
    Empty weight: 11,250 lb (5,100 kg)
    Loaded weight: 19,000 lb (8,620 kg)
    Powerplant: 2× Bristol Pegasus X radial engines, 920 hp (685 kW) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 165 mph (265 km/h) at 6,000 ft (1,830 m)
    Range: 1,000 mi (1,610 km)
    Service ceiling: 18,500 ft (5,640 m)
    Rate of climb: 1,350 ft/min (6.8 m/s)
    Wing loading: 13 lb/ft² (63.7 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.097 hp/lb (159 W/kg)
    Armament
    3× 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis guns
    1,000 lb (454 kg) of bombs or depth charges

    Supermarine Sea Otter

    Number Built: 292

    Power Plant one 965 hp Bristol Mercury XXX
    Crew - Four
    Span - 46' 0" (14.0 m)
    Length - 39' 10¾" (12.2 m)
    Height - 15' 1½" (4.61 m)
    Wing Area - 620 sq ft (56.7 sq m)
    Wt Empty - 6805 lb (3086 kg)
    Wt Loaded - 10000 lb (4536 kg)

    [edit] Performance
    Max Speed - 163 mph (262.3 km/h) at 4500 ft (1371 m)
    Range - 600 miles (1110 km)
    Max Range - 920 miles (1480 km) with overloaded tank
    Rate of Climb - 870 ft/min (265 m/min) to 5000 ft (1524 m)
    Ceiling - 17000 ft (5181 m)
    Armament - one Vickers Free machine gun a twin Vickers K machine guns
    Bombs - four 250 lb (112 kg) bombs

    Westland Whirlwind

    Number Built: 114

    Crew: One pilot
    Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
    Wingspan: 45 ft 0 in (13.72 m)
    Height: 11 ft 7 in (3.53 m)
    Wing area: 250 ft² (23 m²)
    Empty weight: 8,310 lb (3,770 kg)
    Loaded weight: 10,356 lb (4,697 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 11,410 lb (5,175 kg)
    Powerplant: 2× Rolls-Royce Peregrine I Liquid-Cooled V-12, 885 hp (660 kW) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 360 mph (560 km/h)
    Range: 808 miles (1,300 km)
    Service ceiling: 30,315 ft (9,240 m)
    Rate of climb: ft/min (m/min)
    Wing loading: 41 lb/ft² (204 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.17 hp/lb (0.28 kW/kg)
    Armament
    4x Hispano 20 mm cannon in nose (60 rounds per gun, 240 rounds total)
    2x 250 lb (115 kg) or 500 lb (230 kg) bombs
     

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    woww coool:) thanks alot :D great. even a colored pic of this beauty. if you have more,plz post:p i seen the lerwick pic already but all the others been new
     
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    Do you know how I just got those pics? I typed in Westland Whirlwind into Yahoo! and pressed images. You can do the same and I am sure you will have lots of pics of the aircraft.
     
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    hmm yahoo.. google and wiki weren't that 'ertragreich':) thx
     
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    Well Wikipedia actually sucks for information. It is good for a quick reference but it is not reliable to say the least.
     
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    true,i noticed :)

    well..im also curious where you found the data for example.
    still amazing is the fact,that some of you guys immadiately know if someone asks for anything,you know what its about,how it looks like etc.
    is it a personal interest,hobby or relevant to your jobs maybe? what about you,Adler?
     
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    Me I get my data from books that I own and from the internet.

    I have been interested in WW2 aviation all my life. Aviation has been a part of my family. My father flew Hueys in the US Army and I crewed Blackhawks for the US Army stationed in Germany. I am an aircraft mechanic as well, liscensed by the FAA.

    I just love WW2 history, having grown up in Germany and that is why I love WW2 aviation so much.
     
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    very nice8)

    thanks:)
     
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    Anytime, I hope you enjoy the site and stick around for awhile.
     
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    that's nothing, you wanna get yourself over to the aircraft identification thread, post the most obscure aircraft you can find that no one will ever guess, and it will be guessed correctly by one of two members in no time at all...........
     
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    More than likely Blackwolf.
     
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    i suck at them i only stand half a chance if it's British :lol:
     
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