GregP
Major
If a 1944 aircraft didn't use different aerodynamics than a 1939 - 1940 aircraft, then the designer must have been asleep for 4 or 5 years. Aerodynamics went from 350 mph airplane to 450 mph airplanes in that timeframe.
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There's still some question of how much that would impact aircraft in the <300 MPH flight envelope. British carrier based bomber developments stayed slow up to the end of the war ... very slow compared to American Bomber/Torpedo/Attack aircraft. And even the american bombers/attackers were hardly getting into the mid 300 mph range. (granted, it's the emphasis on fighter-bombers that was the bigger issue there)If a 1944 aircraft didn;t use different aerodynamics than a 1939 - 1940 aircraft, then the designer must have been asleep for 4 or 5 years. Aerodynamics went from 350 mph airplane to 450 mph airplanes in that timeframe.
How many of those "other" tasks/missions you listed by performed by the SB2C Helldiver?
(Not arguing for/against either aircraft, just curious)
The Helldiver could do some of the jobs. Helldiver had some low speed handling issues and a higher stall speed than the Avenger which prevented or restricted it's use on smaller carriers. Avengers could operated (although at restricted weights) off of even the smallest/slowest carriers.
A number of sources claim the Helldiver could carry a torpedo but photos of a torpedo on/in a Helldiver are rare. Photos with torpedoes near a Helldiver are easy to find. Some accounts say ONE plane was tested for several months and that the Torpedo was mounted outside the bomb bay (I have seen a photo of this) and it took several hours to convert the plane.
Smith, Curtiss SB2C Helldiver, p57....having to remove the bomb displacement gear forward arms'... from a very inaccessible location', and then having to fit the forward arms of the torpedo mounting assembly. Finally, all the actual loading tests were made with the torpedo fairing completely removed, and then no difficulty was found. The conclusions were that a complete redesign of the torpedo mounting assembly was essential, and methods to achieve this were detailed.
This was eventually done to complete satisfaction. However, the Helldiver was never used as a torpedo dropper in combat despite the fact that Admiral Halsey wanted to take the combining of the dive- and torpedo-bomber functions of his carrier aircraft much further some time later in the war. In November 1944 he proposed the total removal of the Grumman TBM Avenger, a most successful torpedo and glide bomber, from his fast carriers, proposeing instead to rely entirely on Helldivers for torpedo attack. This idea had its advocates and its opponents amongst his carrier captains at this time: Captain C. D. Glover of the Enterprise was all for it, as was Captain W. W. Litch of the Lexington. However, in the short term the chief of naval operations strongly disagreed, and the idea was not taken further:
In fact Halsey was ahead of his time, because his suggestion became the US Navy's official post-war policy, as we shall see.As long as Avengers made up a part of the fast carrier complement it was only natural that they would make all torpedo attacks, if for no other reason than that the Helldiver was a more effective bomber than the Avenger. The fact that dive-bombers were never used for torpedo attack did not disprove the belief that divebombers could carry torpedoes, but only reflected a peculiar wartime situation.50
The 'Skyrider minus' comes out short when it is about to use and on-board radar set.