The CW-21 Was A Good Looking Airplane

MIflyer · Feb 1, 2023

Say what you want. It sure looked good. And that was in 1939.

special ed · Feb 1, 2023

Notice the column about Vega expansion for the Uni-Twin conversion of a Lockheed Altair. The Uni-Twin was a double Menasco.

MIflyer · Feb 1, 2023

I had not realized that the Hudsons got to the UK that far in advance of the start of the war. Note the fake turret; I guess they were not fitted until they got to the U.K.

MIflyer · Feb 1, 2023

Here is some more.

MIflyer · Feb 1, 2023

And some more. Curtiss envisioned building both trainer and combat aircraft with a high degree of commonality.

Admiral Beez · May 5, 2023

MIflyer said:
Say what you want. It sure looked good.

Come on.... this thing is fugly. Even the pilot is looking away from the camera in shame.

It makes the Handley Page Manx look good.

MIflyer · May 5, 2023

Hey, it seems to have the wings off a T-6 and looks much better, even considering those bulky gear fairings.

33k in the air · May 5, 2023

While the F4U Corsair is by far my favourite, I find the Romanian IAR 80 looks pretty good.

GregP · May 5, 2023

Here's a 2-seat version called the CW-22 that makes me want to go fly it:

MIflyer · May 5, 2023

GregP said:
Here's a 2-seat version called the CW-22 that makes me want to go fly it:

I think that is the one they found in South America and brought back through Patrick AFB.

Thumpalumpacus · May 5, 2023

Admiral Beez said:
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Sheesh, that's almost as fugly as the Lysander with a Lancaster tail turret. Going by the British/French/Russian rule, that's halfway between British and Russian at the very least.

Admiral Beez · May 5, 2023

GregP said:
Here's a 2-seat version called the CW-22 that makes me want to go fly it:

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Put a Bonanza's V-tail on this twin-seater and I think we have redemption.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever seen a radial-powered, single engined aircraft with a V-tail. We might have a first.

ThomasP · May 5, 2023

I am not aware of any single engine radial powered aircraft with a V-tail. But there was a c.1931 modified rotary engined Hanriot HD.28 testbed which used a V-tail.

Capt. Vick · May 5, 2023

MIflyer said:
I think that is the one they found in South America and brought back through Patrick AFB.

Kermit Weeks has or had one. I remember it said Budweiser on the side.

glennasher · May 7, 2023

If that thing was any uglier, it could be French. Maybe it was designed by a Frenchman???????????????

SaparotRob · May 7, 2023

The CW-21 is beautiful. I really love low wing radial engined aircraft, especially in NMF. Despite patient attempts to educate me, I still can't see that tail staying attached.

BTW the A-17 and A-18 are gorgeous.

MIflyer · May 7, 2023

Admiral Beez said:
Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever seen a radial-powered, single engined aircraft with a V-tail. We might have a first.

I think first use of a V-tail was on a BF-109.

Admiral Beez · May 7, 2023

MIflyer said:
I think first use of a V-tail was on a BF-109.

Very cool. But not quite the apparent-unicorn V-tail single engine radial I was suggesting.

But it was possible, I like the look of the radial Bf 109.

Radial Engine 109s, the X-0, and V-21

Like the fiSK 199, I have had a heck of a time finding sources, so be prepared for mediocrity (History of the V-21 with the radial 1938-1939) It isn't really well known, or understood why the Messerschmitt company decided to make a radial engined Bf 109, one argument is that it was designed for e...

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Admiral Beez · May 8, 2023

I found it! The first, and apparently only example of a radial-powered single-engine V-tail, the Hanriot H.28. Albeit with a rotary radial, rather than the fixed cylinder block with rotating crankshaft that we associate with later radial engines. The CW-21 would have looked great in this format.

Zbiory NAC on-line

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Subject title: Presentation of the Hanriot H.28 aircraft with a modified tail at the Mokotowskie airport in Warsaw
Description of the painting: Hanriot H.28 aircraft taking off with a butterfly-type tail, modified by E. Plage and T. Laśkiewicz, designed by Jerzy Rudlicki.
Event date: 1931-09-19
Place: Warsaw

WARSPITER · May 8, 2023

special ed said:
Notice the column about Vega expansion for the Uni-Twin conversion of a Lockheed Altair. The Uni-Twin was a double Menasco.

That was done along with a one and a half pike off the ten metre platform wasn't it ?

I know, I know, engine right ?

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