THE LEGEND OF JULIE-JEZEBEL

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Hi, I just joined this forum and was involved in these systems all my career. I also attended the advanced Jezebel Course in 1965 in Norfolk and received my course binder that had a black silouette of the stripper Jezebel as the cover. Can't say we had anything about Julie but we were already using and developing tactics for the Julie system in the RCAF at that time.
I flew on all four VP/MP squadrons ( 404,405,407 415 ) during my career and when not flying spent most my career working for the Acoustic Data Analysis Centre (ADAC) .I was a founding member of that unit which was originally called "Jezebel Central" but we had to change the name for security reasons soon after we formed up in Haliax NS in 1967. Before I finally retired I spent 3 tours with ADAC hence my handle - Jezmonster>
 

This must have been the forerunner of Maritime Proving and Evaluation Unit (MP&EU) Right???
I think I remember studying your "Julie Manual" at 2(M)OTU in Summerside..
 
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caper_1 said:
Hey gents. Thought you guys might find this interesting. It's one of her promotion posters that she autographed. Cheers.

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I first saw this poster many years ago. My Dad was in the RCN and was stationed in Washington DC as Naval Attaché back in the early '60s, and I remember him telling me about going (with my mother!) to a nightclub in Washington to see Julie, so I guess by that time the Julie/ASW connection had already been made. From Washington Dad went to serve in Halifax, Nova Scotia as the Senior Officer Afloat on the carrier, HMCS Bonaventure, known affectionately as "Bonnie". So that's why "Bonnie" is on the poster, and "VS 880", of course, refers to one of Bonnie's squadrons of Grumman Trackers. Here are some photos of VS 880 and Bonnie at sea with Trackers on the flight deck:

 
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The concept of the expendable air launched sonobuoy can be traced back to May 1941 and a British Admiralty proposal which was subsequently developed by RCA in the US into a workable system. Avenger aircraft from the USS Bogue, used them to achieve the first sonobuoy assisted sub kill in June 1944 when they intercepted the Japanese sub I-52 in the Atlantic.

Other aircraft also used them in WW2. For example, RAF Coastal Command Liberator aircraft from late 1944 used them under the code name "High Tea".

Article here about US sonobuoy development

And here about the operation of JULIE & JEZEBEL and some other ASW systems from a Canadian site (you need to scan to near the bottom).
 
XBe02Drvr said:
Just out of curiosity, is there any aspect of carrier aviation and airborne ASW that was invented in the US, and not handed to us by the Brits and Canucks? (other than the planes themselves, of course)
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Well the US can claim the first ever take off from a STATIONARY ship by Eugene Ely on 14 Nov 1910, followed by a first ever arrested landing, again on a stationary ship, on 18 Jan 1911.

Britain's Lieutenant Samson achieved the same take off feat on 10 Jan 1912 from HMS Africa. He surpassed that feat by achieving the first ever take off from a MOVING ship on 9 May 1912. And then on 2 Aug 1917 Britain's Squadron Leader Dunning achieved the first ever deck landing on a MOVING ship.

So the early lead by the US was just as quickly given up But then the US didn't have the urgency of a world war to gee it up!
 
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