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For $26 billion, could they restart the Avro Arrow?
When I read this I found myself proudly starting to sing (mentally) 'O Canada' (hence the medal) - even though I am an American.For $26 billion, could they restart the Avro Arrow?
Same goes for the illegals. We're much more on the up and up on work permits.Once they see what Canadians pay in taxes, they'll stay put.
We should never have made the Avro Arrow. It was a dumb move by Ottawa, Avro and its British owners at Hawker-Siddeley. In the world of ICBMs, none of Canada, NORAD or NATO needed another large interceptor to chase the increasingly non-existent threat of strategic bombers. What we should have built is a multirole competitor to the McDonnell F-4 Phantom II, which first flew in 1958, the same year as the Avro Arrow.For $26 billion, could they restart the Avro Arrow?
Considering how many wars Canada has been in over the past 70 years, they could have used Beavers for their frontline fighter.We should never have made the Avro Arrow. It was a dumb move by Ottawa, Avro and its British owners at Hawker-Siddeley. In the world of ICBMs, none of Canada, NORAD or NATO needed another large interceptor to chase the increasingly non-existent threat of strategic bombers. What we should have built is a multirole competitor to the McDonnell F-4 Phantom II, which first flew in 1958, the same year as the Avro Arrow.
And Avro Canada's owners at Hawker-Siddeley already had such an aircraft in the works, the Hawker P.1121 (shown below in 1957), intended for both radar-equipped interceptor AND ground attack missions, including tactical nuclear weapons. These were the very exact same missions the RCAF would soon be using the F-101 Voodoo and F-104 Starfighter for - these roles could have been domestically fulfilled instead!
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Now, for Canada we'd want a twin engined variant. And guess what.... in May 1957, a nearly year before the Avro Arrow first flies, Sir Sydney Camm produced a rough draft of a twin-engined version of the P.1121, called the P.1125, which was to have been powered by a pair of Rolls-Royce RB.133 engines. Make the P.1125 as a twin-engined competitor to the McDonnell F-4 Phantom II and Canada and Britain would have found customers with the RCAF, RAF, FAA, and others.
Well throw in a puck, call it a game and balance of power is going to shift.Considering how many wars Canada has been in over the past 70 years, they could have used Beavers for their frontline fighter.
That's not entirely fair. For example, Canada's CF-18s have been deployed to at least eight combat or danger zones.Considering how many wars Canada has been in over the past 70 years, they could have used Beavers for their frontline fighter.
WOOOHOOO! Finally, a strategy I can get behind ......... ;-PWhy, hookers and blow, of course.
Damn it, now I've got Blow At High Dough in my head on repeat.Why, hookers and blow, of course.
Submarine Type | Displacement | Length | Beam | Complement | Endurance | Weaponry |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shortfin Barracuda (France) | 4,700 tons (surfaced) | 99 meters (325 ft) | 8 meters (26 ft) | 60-70 personnel | 45 days | 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes, SCALP Naval cruise missiles, torpedoes, mines |
Type 121CD/E (Germany) | 3,600 tons (surfaced) | 77 meters (253 ft) | 8 meters (26 ft) | 35-40 personnel | 50+ days | 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes, torpedoes, mine warfare capabilities |
KSS III Batch II (South Korea) | 3,900 tons (surfaced) | 83.9 meters (275 ft) | 9 meters (29.5 ft) | 50-60 personnel | 60+ days | 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes, Hyunmoo missiles, torpedoes |
Navantia S-80 (Spain) | 3,000 tons (surfaced) | 81 meters (266 ft) | 7.3 meters (24 ft) | 40-50 personnel | 30-40 days | 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes, torpedoes, mines |
SAAB C71 (Sweden) | 1,200 tons (surfaced) | 60 meters (197 ft) | 6.2 meters (20.3 ft) | 20-30 personnel | 14-21 days | 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes, torpedoes |
Submarine Type | AIP | Near Ice Capability |
---|---|---|
Shortfin Barracuda (SSK) | Yes | No (Designed for warmer climates) |
Type 121CD/E (Germany) | Yes | Yes (Capable of operating in colder waters, but not specifically Arctic) |
KSS III Batch II (South Korea) | Yes | Yes (Designed for cold waters, including near-Arctic regions) |
Navantia S-80 (Spain) | Yes | No (Optimized for Mediterranean and temperate climates) |
SAAB C71 (Sweden) | Yes | Yes (Designed for cold-water operations, including near ice) |