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Also with all your guns in central locations they pack a greater punch then say a mustang that has to offset there guns to a certain range or distance to bring all guns into play to hit the target at the same time.
Also has advantages of range, don't forget!
Interesting the one looks like a ME110...
And where would the turbo charger and ducting go?On another though on the P-38, bulky nacelles could have been avoided if the landing gear has been carried in the inboard portion of the wings. (with additional fuel being carried in the fuselage) Though this may bring into question the placement of the bomb/drop-tank pylons. (depending on how the gear is arranged)
I spent 73 seconds on it... I wast designing a new aircraft,,, just a quick sketch..
copy and paste
And it remains an active concept in Homebuilts. The latest(?) being The New Horizons design. In their words, eliminating visibility problems...
oh. I thought it was an actual concept.
I think the twin boom concept was chosen for this reason on the FW-189 for it's reconnaissance role. And indeed, the fuselage section was constructed almost entirely with glazed glass windows to get an unobstructed view in just about every direction. A small note- it's usefulness for recon roles earned it the nickname "flying eye"
On another though on the P-38, bulky nacelles could have been avoided if the landing gear has been carried in the inboard portion of the wings. (with additional fuel being carried in the fuselage) Though this may bring into question the placement of the bomb/drop-tank pylons. (depending on how the gear is arranged)
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The turbochargers/ducting would be in the same location, the turbochargers didn't add any real "bulk" to the nacelles. Then again, the landing gear wouldn't add a lot either. (adding to length, but that wouldn't have a significant effect on drag)
And after I thought about it, I think the gear were best where they were. (booms or no booms) Hence why pretty much all twin engined piston engined aircraft of the war had them located in the nacelles.
Chin mounted radiators would make the nacelles bulkier and add drag. (though, having them grouped with the engine and oil cooler reduces vulnerability)
Mounting the radiators (probably along with oil coolers and intercoolers) in extended inboard wing sections (ie Mossie or Whirlwind) may have been a possibility. (the resulting increase inchord may have also delayed compressibility) This may have had other issues though.
So, for the "conventional P-38," compact, low drag, outer-wing mounted radiators were probably the best choice. (like on the Bf 110)
You forget one thing - the set up of the turbo chargers are based on the size and length of the ducting running from the intakes to the turbocharger and on to the engine. If the ducting is shortened or lengthened it will effect the turbo charger performance. Remember, it was decided to build an interceptor that could climb and with the "tools" available a turbocharged twin seemed to be the way to go - what was available was the Allison so by adding the turbo charger everything "worked." I think in the end this is the reason why Johnson decided on a twin boom configuration.
I agree this is the best overall layout. As I put in my last post, I was just discussing how the P-38 might have been arrange in a "conventional" layout.
However, I didn't say anything about movint the turbocharger, so I'm not sure why you made the first comment. The P-38 had a pretty compact location for the turbocharger, almost back to back with the engine with relatively short ducting (except for the original intercoolers in the wing LE) generally similar to that on a B-17 or B-24, opposed to the much longer ducting of the P-47 with its ventral turbocharger.
BTW Johnson was also very "into" twin tail (H tail) configurations. His college thesis actually gave critical critique of the Electra's first windshield configuration and actually
Yes, the kids started cryingDid you forget to finish that last sentence?
OK I see your point - I thought the turbocharger was further back than it actually was.However, I didn't say anything about movint the turbocharger, so I'm not sure why you made the first comment. The P-38 had a pretty compact location for the turbocharger, almost back to back with the engine with relatively short ducting (except for the original intercoolers in the wing LE) generally similar to that on a B-17 or B-24, opposed to the much longer ducting of the P-47 with its ventral turbocharger.
Yes, the kids started crying
Well because of his paper he eventually got hired at Lockhhed. He convinced Lockheed to go with an "H" tail and to drop the "motorboat" inward canted windscreen.Sorry, what was the rest of that though?
Were you just going to mention how he influenced the L-10 design? (twin tail, wing fillet, altered windshield/nose)
And the preference to twin-fin tails is demonstrated on the sketch of a "conventional" P-38 as well.
One of my 'fantasy' aircraft was to build one with the P-38 basic layout but with just a single Allison T-56 in the nose.