Unknown bomb-rack part and engine-parts

DW-MVKV · Sep 28, 2021

Goodmorning,
During archaeological activities, at the Navy Airbase Valkenburg in the Netherlands, there are found a bomb-rack part and 3 almost similar engine parts. From these parts are we looking to which plane, bomb- rack or engine they belong. We want to show them in our history visitor centre.

The bomber-rack part, parts numbers we've found are,
- ARM 24540
- 11A/3449
- 11A/3336
- 11A/3335
- 54557
The engine parts, parts numbers we've found are,
-82-42223 C
3-5-11
-82-42221 C
63?-8-10
Is there anyone who can inform us about the origin of these parts? We've enclosed some foto's.
Kind regards
Diederik Wurtz

Crimea_River · Sep 28, 2021

I can only offer that the 11A/ part numbers are British standard parts that could have been carried on multiple types. The other numbers might narrow things down a bit so hopefully others will chime in.

DW-MVKV · Sep 28, 2021

Crimea_River said:
I can only offer that the 11A/ part numbers are British standard parts that could have been carried on multiple types. The other numbers might narrow things down a bit so hopefully others will chime in.

Thanx

MiTasol · Oct 4, 2021

The exhaust stacks are easy - B-25 used on C&D models starting 42-32383 on . Later stacks look the same but are a different number.

82-42221 STACK ASSEM - FLAME DAMP. EXHAUST - CYLS. # 6, 8, & 10
82-42223 STACK ASSEM. - FLAME DAMP. EXHAUST - CYLS. # 3, 5, 11 & 13

As CrimeaRiver says the bomb rack is definitely British and would be fitted to multiple types. The Brits fitted Brit racks to RAF A-20s so it is possible they did the same with the B-25s. They may also be off a different type. The main material appears stainless which may indicate a Royal Navy bomb rack. All the RAF racks I have seen are steel. If there is a part number on that casting above the rack that would help.

I have never seen that rack before so cannot help further

DW-MVKV · Oct 5, 2021

Thank you for information. It's usefull. There's no casting. We've only this part of the bombrack. We don't have more partsnumbers. It was found at the old Navy Airfield Valkenburg in the Neterlands.

MiTasol · Oct 5, 2021

Sorry - I thought the piece inside the red was probably an airframe casting.

PETERTHEEATER · Oct 5, 2021

The RAF Stock Reference system of that era assigned Section 11A to aircraft release equipment followed by a Reference Number. As I recall the Air Publication covering Equipment was AP 1086.

The items pictured might be from the British Carrier, Bomb Number 1 Mark III. The other two variants, the Mk I and II both had cutch pads at the lower end of the arms which were adjustable, the Mk III did not.

WWII Universal Bomb Carrier No1 MKIII. Spitfire Hurricane and more

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DW-MVKV · Oct 5, 2021

MiTasol said:
Sorry - I thought the piece inside the red was probably an airframe casting.
View attachment 643702

I didn't understand you ment the red circled part. Checked it but there's, unfortunately, no number anymore at it.

DW-MVKV · Oct 5, 2021

PETERTHEEATER said:
The RAF Stock Reference system of that era assigned Section 11A to aircraft release equipment followed by a Reference Number. As I recall the Air Publication covering Equipment was AP 1086.

The items pictured might be from the British Carrier, Bomb Number 1 Mark III. The other two variants, the Mk I and II both had cutch pads at the lower end of the arms which were adjustable, the Mk III did not.

WWII Universal Bomb Carrier No1 MKIII. Spitfire Hurricane and more

spitfireparts.co.uk

Thank you for your information. Is't possible that this part is used at a Hawker Seafury?

PETERTHEEATER · Oct 6, 2021

DW-MVKV said:
Thank you for your information. Is't possible that this part is used at a Hawker Seafury?

Yes, the Fleet Air Arm (Royal Navy) picked up the order for the original Hawker Fury which the RAF had cancelled and renamed it. The original design was for the RAF requirement as a fighter. The Navy model had a ground attack capability so used RAF bombing equipment.

DW-MVKV · Oct 12, 2021

Thank you for information and sorry for the late answer.
Before we gave a reaction, we want to know to which plane the bomb-rack part belong.
Now we are sure that it was a Hawker Seafury MK.51, SF 6-8 from the Dutch Royal Navy Airforce.
Flown by LTZV1 D. Th Challik, first officer VSQ 3.
Stationed at the Naval Air Station Valkenburg. (NAS Valkenburg).

The 24th October 1955 four Seafuries left NAS Valkenburg, with each two bombs, to exercise dive bomb attacks. Three Seafuries had no problem with the practice. They could throw off their bombs. Only the fourth Seafury, flown by LTZV1 D.Th Challik, couldn't throw of his bombs. He did try a several times above sea to throw of the bombs. This didn't work. So, he flew back to the NAS Valkenburg and start landing. At the moment the plane touched the ground a bomb, from the right wing, came off and exploded. Through this explosion the Seafury was smashed to pieces and LTZV1 D. Th Challik died right away.

Enclosed you'll find five photographs. The black and white photos are made available by the NIMH. The Dutch Institute for Military History.
At the group photo stands, LTZV1 D. Th Challik, left beside the commander.

MiTasol · Oct 12, 2021

Thank you for the history of the aircraft and pilot - it is much appreciated.

Crimea_River · Oct 12, 2021

Thanks for closing the loop.

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