Unknown flap or airplane aileron

[randywrap]

Hi this is my first post ....I have a interesting part flap or more likely an Aileron...? opinions welcome ...It was said to be off of a ME109. Thanks in advance....

 

[Wurger]

... Bf 109 ????

Welcome in the being duped club.

 

[Snautzer01]

Hi and welcome. Alas as Wurger said, i do not think bf 109. Who told you it was?

 

[randywrap]

Hi and welcome. Alas as Wurger said, i do not think bf 109. Who told you it was?

Ok what is it then?

 

[Wurger]

What are its dimensions, the span, chord? In other words, the length and width.

 

[randywrap]

What are its dimensions, the span, chord? In other words, the length and width.

Here are the dimension 9x14x38 inches

 

[Wurger]

Humm ... a quite small part. No hinges and pushrod but a shaft and a small mass balance. Also a lack of a tip. It looks like the part was of brown-red colour with white strips initially. The military aircraft don't have a such painting usually. It could be an elevator from a small civilian plane/chopper or a rudder for instance.

 

[randywrap]

Thanks for your opinion....here is the add....

 

[Wurger]

Up to the Bf 109E flaps were longer and had the metal "skeleton" fabric skinned. Beginning the Bf 109F the flaps became shorter of metal covering. The covering was riveted at the edges all around and had four or five rivet lines where the inner airfoils were. No pipe going through the entire part. What is more the Bf 109 even the early sub-types weren't used the kind of camouflage colours seen in the pics. And especially red-white painted flaps.

The length of the early Bf 109 flap was 2609,8mm = 102,75". The late Bf 109 had the length of the flap about 1430mm = 56,30".

BTW do you have the pic mentioned in the add?

Here the shots of Bf 109 flaps. The left one id the flap used for Bf 109A-E while the one on the right for late ones beginning the Bf 109F.

the pic source the net.

 

[randywrap]

Up to the Bf 109E flaps were longer and had the metal "skeleton" fabric skinned. Beginning the Bf 109F the flaps became shorter of metal covering. The covering was riveted at the edges all around and had four or five rivet lines where the inner airfoils were. No pipe going through the entire part. What is more the Bf 109 even the early sub-types weren't used the kind of camouflage colours seen in the pics. And especially red-white painted flaps.

The length of the early Bf 109 flap was 2609,8mm = 102,75". The late Bf 109 had the length of the flap about 1430mm = 56,30".

BTW do you have the pic mentioned in the add?

Here the shots of Bf 109 flaps. The left one id the flap used for Bf 109A-E while the one on the right for late ones beginning the Bf 109F.

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the pic source the net.

Thank you very much for this information....yes i do have the pics but they really don't show much...the later flap looks closest here are a few shots that were in the add.

here are a few shots I found ....

 

[randywrap]

I found these on the web the second shot shows a tab similar to the flap in the add...

 

[Wurger]

I agree that the late flap looks quite similar to the item in question but it is too short and probably too narrow at both endings. What is more the orginal flap of the Bf 109F/G/K didn't have any pipe/rod going through the part. Even if it would be the axis for rotating why it was screwed to the protruding airfoil at the one end? How the flap would be lowered up and down? IMHO that's the stumer and the add looks like a marketing gimmick but nothing more.

 

[Wurger]

I found these on the web the second shot shows a tab similar to the flap in the add...

Do you mean the small tab ( mass balance) at the flap trailing edge?

 

[randywrap]

Thanks for your opinions thanks very much...!! There is a moving part this section of square aluminum part...moves freely

 

[randywrap]

Do you mean the small tab ( mass balance) at the flap trailing edge?
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Yes....

 

[Wurger]

Yes....

Sorry but is not any tab. It is the tail wheel seen partially.

 

[randywrap]

Possibly,,,,, Thank you again...!!

 

[Wurger]

Ok ... here you have the flap details of the same G-2 kite you found. Does your flap have these? If not, it can't be the Bf 109F/G/K flap. And flaps don't need any trim tab or external mass balance.

 

[randywrap]

Ok ... here you have the flap details of the same G-2 kite you found. Does your flap have these? If not, it can't be the Bf 109F/G/K flap. And flaps don't need any trim tab or external mass balance.

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I think you hit it I don't see any cut out hinges thanks again appreciate it

 

[Wurger]

No problemo.