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Jiro Horikoshi is my source to confirm the assertion that the Japanese had developed a 'duraluminum' that was purportedly more advanced and lighter in weight than other nation's industries, and was utilized in the Zero fighter. As for it being thinner - I can't confirm that. I have pieces of many Japanese aircraft in my collection, as well as comparable parts of American, German, British, and Russian machines. The thinnest by far seems to have been of Russian origin, but you can also tie the stuff in a knot - almost - it's so malleable. But thicknesses would differ from one panel to another. Japanese wartime metallurgy seems to have been very inconsistent. The only real post-war scientific studies ever conducted, that I know of, were of Japanese steel by the U.S. Navy - specifically steel armor plate in their warships. The results ranged from identifying some of the best steels ever tested - to garbage.
Probably the 64th Kokutai, but I'd have to look it up. 'Hayabusa' is literally Japanese for 'Peregrine Falcon' and, in Japanese vernacular, refers specifically to the Ki-43 series of fighters, or "Oscars". In 1942 that would have been the Ki-43 I with the two-bladed propeller, one of which is preserved in Australia. The Japanese still pay homage to the original WW2 Hayabusa by having named one of their first spacecraft after it, and the world's fastest production motorcycle.
Thanks Coles.
You know, I think there's more lack of information in the West than lack of information itself. You see, not today, but in the first decades after the war, there were many veterans and factory workers that were still young and with good memory, I beat they provided this info.
I'm not looking for othing in specific at the momment, I just would like to see what a pilot from a Ki-44 or other still unknow type would tell if asked what color the cockpit was painted. I have some Maru Mechanic books, and I belive the cockpit colors in them were painted according to the veterans, and it's really strange sometimes.
Other question: the Zero and Ki-43 pilots belived their machines were adequate against early war Allied types such as the P-40 and the Wildcat?
Thanks, the 64th sounds right. I was thinking that before I typed it but wanted to look it up. I had heard rumors of Zeros against the AVG, but I am guessing it was the Oscars they were facing. I haven't seen any evidence to indicate any Zeros at the time. It's an interesting history that I am reading which compares the claims to the actual losses in the records of both the Americans and the Japanese. Both sides overclaimed, although it isn't terribly surprising when you look at the battle as told by different people. That is often the case, two people side by side in the same firefight can have vastly different views by how they took in the information, especially under duress.
GREAT SITE!
Interesting.
About the A5M, the Russians regarded the machine has very good, as they also regarded the Ki-27 and it's pilots.
Nice! I really like the painting of the captured P-40 with the Zero. The color scheme on the Zero in that painting is very much like the Camarillo Zero.
I tried using Google on this and the best hit came up as a thread here five years ago http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aviation/question-about-a6m-duraluminum-9908-2.html which Flyboy should remember as he contributed. Micdrow contributed on Extra-super-duraluminium, ESD, that "The ESD was used on the Zero but not for the skin, It was used for what is usually the most single heaviest member of the structure, The main wing spar." The point was that ESD was stronger but it was subject to corrosion. Other countries rejected it and Japan was alone in using it, rightly as it turned out, because they realised that aircraft would not last long in a war.Jiro Horikoshi is my source to confirm the assertion that the Japanese had developed a 'duraluminum' that was purportedly more advanced and lighter in weight than other nation's industries, and was utilized in the Zero fighter. ....
I tried using Google on this and the best hit came up as a thread here five years ago http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aviation/question-about-a6m-duraluminum-9908-2.html which Flyboy should remember as he contributed. Micdrow contributed on Extra-super-duraluminium, ESD, that "The ESD was used on the Zero but not for the skin, It was used for what is usually the most single heaviest member of the structure, The main wing spar." The point was that ESD was stronger but it was subject to corrosion. Other countries rejected it and Japan was alone in using it, rightly as it turned out, because they realised that aircraft would not last long in a war.
Was that for the wing spar itself, or the spar caps? Spar cap exfoliation is regarded as the big problem with restoring Japanese aircraft - especially Mitsubishi-built machines - for this reason. It infects the Raiden, as we were discussing before in this thread. The wing spars themselves hold up well, but the spar caps (which are cast) corrode quickly into a flaky substance that looks like rotted wood. When it breaks down the internal structure of the wing just falls apart, and the landing gear collapses. But the Germans used a similar alloy as well, though sparingly. I have an original Bf109E instrument panel made of an 'aluminum/magnesium' alloy that shares these attributes.
Ron Cole
Was that for the wing spar itself, or the spar caps? Spar cap exfoliation is regarded as the big problem with restoring Japanese aircraft - especially Mitsubishi-built machines - for this reason. It infects the Raiden, as we were discussing before in this thread. The wing spars themselves hold up well, but the spar caps (which are cast) corrode quickly into a flaky substance that looks like rotted wood. When it breaks down the internal structure of the wing just falls apart, and the landing gear collapses. But the Germans used a similar alloy as well, though sparingly. I have an original Bf109E instrument panel made of an 'aluminum/magnesium' alloy that shares these attributes.
Ron Cole