XP-67 Blueprints and Flight Data: looking for anything that anyone has as well as the Boeing archive location for McDonnell Douglas

Ad: This forum contains affiliate links to products on Amazon and eBay. More information in Terms and rules

19
7
Oct 20, 2019
This is my first post on this website so if anyone has any pointers as to where to go for what I'm looking for that would be much appreciated. :)

So, I am a 3D artist working on a 3D model of the McDonnell Aircraft XP-67 and I need more reference material. I have been working with a partner on this since November of 2016. At the start of this summer I went out to the National Archives in Washington DC to collect blueprints of the aircraft. What I found there was really good for correcting the issues with many amateur drawings but it was not enough to finish all the components. Due to the lack of detail in the limited selection of photos I cannot continue and just wing it. My sights have been set on the Boeing archive for McDonnell Douglas where the history of the company is kept. The Archive is in St. Louis Missouri near Lambert Field (or whatever it is called today) in the Boeing complex but that is all I know/can guess. I have tried contacting Boeing's licensing people/team/specialists to see if it was possible to get ahold of the blueprints from them because they handle the exchange of intellectual property. They haven't gotten back to me yet. Potentially, they may know about where the archive is even if they can't give me the blueprints though.

So what am I looking for?
- cockpit schematics
- landing gear schematics
- blueprints with the gear wells detailed
- engine air duct schematics
- an entire building in St. Louis :laughing3:
- to be specific, the Boeing/McDonnell Douglas archive near Lambert Field

What do I have?
- original general arrangement drawings (rare and valuable but limited)
- the same 15 photos you can find on Google images (not all too special)
- 3 detailed photos of the cockpit (no measurements though so everything is h*cked in that regard:puke:)

What would be helpful?
- photos of the landing gear close up
- photos of the gear wells
- photos of the cockpit facing aft
- schematics, drawings, and blueprints of the aforementioned items
- the building number of the archive (view the Boeing complex from Google maps)

If you would like to see the work we have done so far and read a bit more about the project click here and here (project and program respectively). My work can be viewed on the third page of the thread for the first link.
 
Oh I completely forgot if anyone wanted to see the project in its current state here are some renders.

XP-67 front left.jpg
XP-67 side.jpg
XP-67 back right.jpg
 
I'd imagine they actually operate their emails… is there any more you could elaborate on?
You could try their PR department but for the most part I bet you'll get very little help in research like this from any of the major airframe manufacturers, they generally don't have the time and manpower for stuff like this. Hate to rain on your parade.

You're better off trying the National Archives
 
You could try their PR department but for the most part I bet you'll get very little help in research like this from any of the major airframe manufacturers, they generally don't have the time and manpower for stuff like this. Hate to rain on your parade.

You're better off trying the National Archives
I collected all the relevant blueprints from the National Archives. ALL of them. So, what I know is there is a McDonnell Douglas archive St. Louis. It is most likely at Lambert field as that was where McDonnell Aircraft originated and I know it is open to the public. The issue you are describing is to do with communicating with the company. I could say h*ck it and wing it and get a flight from CA to St. Louis. I would go in blind because I don't care but my parents won't let me just go off somewhere without a plan. That to me is the only issue. So in order to satiate their neurotic needs I have to be able to pin down information from an official source that is more official than "I'm pretty sure" which provides specifics. I have a friend who works at Boeing so I can maybe get info from him through a string of "I know a guy who knows a guy…(etc)".
 
I collected all the relevant blueprints from the National Archives. ALL of them. So, what I know is there is a McDonnell Douglas archive St. Louis. It is most likely at Lambert field as that was where McDonnell Aircraft originated and I know it is open to the public. The issue you are describing is to do with communicating with the company. I could say h*ck it and wing it and get a flight from CA to St. Louis. I would go in blind because I don't care but my parents won't let me just go off somewhere without a plan. That to me is the only issue. So in order to satiate their neurotic needs I have to be able to pin down information from an official source that is more official than "I'm pretty sure" which provides specifics. I have a friend who works at Boeing so I can maybe get info from him through a string of "I know a guy who knows a guy…(etc)".
Well FYI - I've worked for Lockheed and Boeing and just passing on from what I've seen as an actual employee. Lockheed had a great library/ archive building but that went by the wayside when they shutdown the Burbank facility during the early 1990s. As stated, your best bet is to try to find a PR department in St. Louis and go from there.

Your project looks very promising, good luck in your quest but do listen to your parents. ;)
 
Have you tried the Smithsonian?
Quick check of their database came up a few collections and photos but it doesn't tell me anything about the contents. The National Archives at least had titles that differentiated documents.

Or the San Diego Air & Space Museum (Very friendly)
They don't have anything...

Or the National Museum of the USAF
Can't find a database or catalogue yet...

but do listen to your parents.
Do you mean this in the "I'm an adult and I am speaking to a kid/young adult" kind of way or is it more of a "I really do agree that you should have a plan" type thing?
 
A little deviation. What a beautiful aircraft, almost begging for a couple of J31 engines or a lot better yet, a pair of J-33 engines, an early version of the F-4 (big engines on a heavy fighter)!
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back