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Zyzygie - Another Brit who preferred the Me 262...
Spitfire pilots and aircraft database - Flt lt Reginald C Gosling RAF
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Turbine engine activity at Ernst Heinkel Aktiengesellschaft:
The interesting He S 011 was a hybrid axial/centrifugal engine spinning at around 13500 rev/min. The stress in the turbine blades is a function of the rotational speed squared, hence around 2.4 times that in the JUMO 004 blades running at 8700 rev/min, all other factors being equal.
https://www.cdvandt.org/CIOS-XXIII-14.pdf
Turbine stress and creep were problematic in the JUMO, so it's hard to see how the Heinkel could have worked without radically improved turbine materials.
Drag statistics of the Meteor vs. that of some contemporary aircraft, including the Me 262:
Considering that the Germans had:"...Now who needs enemies when you have a reliability record like the Me262?..."
IMO what the Luftwaffe needed in 1943 was the He 280 with centrifugal flow engines and the Me 262 in 1944 as a fighter bomber.Considering that the Germans had:
· No suitable raw materials for the engines
· No safe manufacturing facilities
· No skilled labor workforce
· No reliable supply of fuel and rubber
· No large numbers of experienced pilots
· No secure airfields to operate from
*IF* even one of those items listed above were available in abundance, the Me262 would have been far more than a nuisance...
IMO what the Luftwaffe needed in 1943 was the He 280 with centrifugal flow engines and the Me 262 in 1944 as a fighter bomber.
Interessant flow of archives Zyzygie, but when comparing the 262, you can't go higher than the MKIII for the meteor. everything beyond that Mark is like what-if/Luft46 stuff...
And the RAe report tell us the MKIII sucked badly in combat maneuvers as it's rollrate was inferior compared to a C5 Galaxy fully loaded
A combat plane unable to execute combat maneuvers is not a combat plane, it's a flying platform.
IMO what the Luftwaffe needed as a bomber destroyer was the Me 262 with Rolls Royce Derwent engines. But hold it, didn't Adolf Galland say something like that down the track? And, as Eric Brown said, it should have had air brakes...
The Meteor F4 would do just nicely as a dogfighter.
Considering that the Germans had:
· No suitable raw materials for the engines
· No safe manufacturing facilities
· No skilled labor workforce
· No reliable supply of fuel and rubber
· No large numbers of experienced pilots
· No secure airfields to operate from
*IF* even one of those items listed above were available in abundance, the Me262 would have been far more than a nuisance...