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    1. RabidAlien
      RabidAlien
      Yep. I'm under no illusions that an armed staff member would have prevented all deaths. But if you look at it from an unemotional, rather clinical point of view, after the first few shots were fired, staff knew something was going on, and he could/would have been taken down. A couple wounded/dead, while still a tragedy, is much preferable to 26 dead. We're humans. There will be no way to prevent stuff like this from EVER happening, until Jesus returns. Evil is with us, like it or not, and the only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to do nothing.
    2. RabidAlien
      RabidAlien
      Agreed. On one of the blogs I read, it was pointed out that in Israel, schoolteachers are encouraged to take classes (offered by the school system) and to carry openly in school. Maintenance, janitors, lunch ladies, office staff....there's usually a majority who are armed at any one time. Israel started this after their last school shooting massacre...back in 1974. There have been attempts, but the perp didn't live past the first couple of shots.

      Here's the blog: Wee bit of common sense in schools. | Gun Free Zone
    3. RabidAlien
      RabidAlien
      (stupid word-count!)

      Being on defense means someone else has to go on offense first, they have to act before one can react. But the count would have been much, much lower. Tragic, yes. But how many lives would have been saved by one teacher, one custodian, one secretary, one bus driver, who was armed and on-site? Nothing against the police, but it does take time to get from point A to point B, and they can't be everywhere at all times. Unfortunately, the loudest and most obnoxious voices that will be screaming for results in the next days/weeks will be the ones demanding to take the rights away from those who did not commit the crime.
    4. RabidAlien
      RabidAlien
      I have my thoughts/ideas on the issue, and am firmly on the "gun-free zones work, but the price (in blood) is far too high" side of the issue. Frankly, if there is a business or organization that decrees that I am not allowed to carry in a certain area, then they are assuming full responsibility for my security while in that area. Every mass-shooting proves that they are NOT providing adequate security. There are countless cases where a robbery has been foiled by one or two individuals who were armed, themselves, and simply a show of force drove off the roaches. In the case of the Aurora theater madman, and this scumbag yesterday, yes, unfortunately, there would have been a body count.
    5. RabidAlien
      RabidAlien
      Hey, thanks for the Like! I despise these "individuals" who think that shooting up a school or a mall is the way to get attention...and I especially despise those who take these tragedies and immediately (while the blood on the ground is still warm) exploit it for personal/political gain.
    6. oldcrowcv63
      oldcrowcv63
      Which one did you get? Wagner's? It'll give you a nice quick summary, but for great detail see if you can find a copy of America's Hundred Thousand by Francis Dean. I just bought a copy and it's amazing in its detail. The price is steep but maybe your library has a copy or you can get someone to give you a copy for your B-Day or Xmas (if you can wait that long :(
    7. oldcrowcv63
      oldcrowcv63
      just remembered. Ray Wagner's American Combat Planes is not a bad place to start to get a gereral idea of what was around at different times through about 1975. It only covers the USA aircraft however. There are published resources on the web and in the forum for download to get a foreign perspective.
    8. oldcrowcv63
      oldcrowcv63
      Andy I am a vietnam era vet with carrier and land based aircraft time. retired USNR. There are many on this web site who know far more than I. in both history and technical aspects of avaition. Just hang around and you'll learn a lot. Just as I have done. There certainly plenty of good books and web sites to use a resources. In general the series of aircraft descriptions by Signal publications has good info. Carrier and aircraft and their operational history are discussed at length by the two Normans: Friedman and Polmar. Nice to meet you.
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    Birthday:
    January 18
    Location:
    Ohio, USA
    Occupation:
    Attending College Majoring in Political Science
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    United States
    Interests:
    Model Airplanes, Flags
    I love learning about WWII