12oclockhigh.net is closing!

[bada]

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum - Announcements in Forum : Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces discussion forum

forum.12oclockhigh.net

12oclockhigh.net is closing end this month.
Again, a gold mine of information will disappear

I lost my user/password more than 15 years ago.
Would be a shame to let it disappear like other WW2 fora's. Does someone have an access to it?
If yes, could someone ask Ruy Horta the total size of the forum, maybe i could host it as "consultable" Forum like i did for wwiiaircraftperformance.
Thanks.

 

[fubar57]

B bada Not sure what you can grab here if anything..... Wayback Machine

 

[bada]

Not much saved and the last save from 2024 send you to the hosting services.
Tried to save several different pages on the webarchive, but no luck; "error message telling page not available"
Looks like there is some kind of protection against the crawler from Wayback Machine.

 

[GrauGeist]

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum - Announcements in Forum : Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces discussion forum

forum.12oclockhigh.net

12oclockhigh.net is closing end this month.
Again, a gold mine of information will disappear

I lost my user/password more than 15 years ago.
Would be a shame to let it disappear like other WW2 fora's. Does someone have an access to it?
If yes, could someone ask Ruy Horta the total size of the forum, maybe i could host it as "consultable" Forum like i did for wwiiaircraftperformance.
Thanks.

Send them a message from the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page.

 

[bada]

Send them a message from the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page.

Hi,; thanks, i've done that, no answer yet.

 

[Alex Smart]

Sadly as far as I know and for reasons unknown Ruy has not responded to any of the offers of help or requests to take over the forum. So looks a bit selfish, "It's my forum and nobody else is taking it from me". Result thousands of historic information messages will be forever gone.
Hopefully someone will start a new forum where all those questions will eventually be asked again .

 

[bada]

Sadly as far as I know and for reasons unknown Ruy has not responded to any of the offers of help or requests to take over the forum. So looks a bit selfish, "It's my forum and nobody else is taking it from me". Result thousands of historic information messages will be forever gone.
Hopefully someone will start a new forum where all those questions will eventually be asked again .

Well, if it's the case, then it sucks.
This is an attitude i do not appreciate... but still, if this is the case, what happens in the darkness...
Instead of being proud of what he has done with his forum and passing the torch to the next generation ...

 

[Checkertail20]

I had an account there but don't remembering what I posted.

 

[wheelsup_cavu]

Never a site I frequented but each site like 12 O'clock high that goes down is a huge loss. While the Internet Archive typically does usually save portions of a site like 12 O'clock high that have been online for as long as them there are always huge amounts of information that is lost.

Sadly as far as I know and for reasons unknown Ruy has not responded to any of the offers of help or requests to take over the forum. So looks a bit selfish, "It's my forum and nobody else is taking it from me". Result thousands of historic information messages will be forever gone.
Hopefully someone will start a new forum where all those questions will eventually be asked again .

That would be a huge shame if that is the reason the site closes.

Wheels

 

[wheelsup_cavu]

There has been a conditional reprieve until the end of the year. In his Update announcement Ruy is also asking for help from someone that knows a thing or two about upgrading.

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Updatehttp://forum.12oclockhigh.net/announcement.php?f=13

Dear all,

Unless something significant changes I'll keep the forum running as is for at least the end of this year.

With significant I mean:

1. Major increase in cost
2. Provider will end legacy support
3. We have upgraded the forum
4. Other, like migration elsewhere

So now it is a matter of finding an upgrade path before the end of the year.
Last week I was too busy with work related stuff, including the weekends, but I'll have more time in the upcoming period.

Current direction of thought

1. Verify upgrade path
2. Get license for upgrade
3. Test upgrade
4. Upgrade

Keeping in mind that the latest version of vBulletin is supposedly capable of directly upgrading the dbase to the latest version. However we are running PHP 5.3 on extended support, whereas the current version is 8.4 (recommended 8.3). The provider has tools for the PHP upgrade itself (it is just config). What matters is how to upgrade vBulletin and its dbase.

Last but not least there might be some non standard components that will not play nice during an upgrade.

So long story short I will need some help from someone with a bit more experience with dbase migrations, and ideally vBulletin updates.

PS - the legacy support for PHP 5.3 might not last until the end of the year, as it is the oldest listed version.

Wheels

 

[Marcel]

3.7.2 that's almost 10 years old. Upgrading that all the way to 8 will be a pain I imagine.

I'm not volunteering. At the moment I'm working on saving "Zuidfront Holland". (Welkom [Zuidfront Holland - Mei 1940]) That site 's last upgrade was 2008 we decided to crawl the whole site, throw away the system and start a new with a new CMS. Upgrading would not be worth it. I've been working on that the last 2-3 months.