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What does a single engine bomber bring to the table?
As in what do 200 single bombers that can move 1000lbs apiece 400miles (radius) do for you that 100 twin engine bombers that can move 2000lbs each 400 miles (radius) at the same speeds?
BTW the He 118 was a bad example. It used a wing about 96% of the size of a Battle's wing and since it first flew in 1936 it's aerodynamics were not any better than the Battle's.
You need a new wing
in the RAF, Battle was replacing the Hind,Single-engined bomber was needed to replace the old single-engined bombers, in ever-increasing quantities. Eg. in the RAF, Battle was replacing the Hind, in Germany the Ju-87 was supposed to replace the Hs 123, Su-2 was also replacing biplane bombers in the VVS. New 2-, 3- and even 4-engined bombers were in pipeline to replace old, mostly 2- engined bombers.
And we do have to be careful to compare years. Yes the Blenheim only carried 1000lbs, but it was faster by about 30mph than the Battle.There was a handful of 2-engined fast (or fast-ish) bomber types that were able to carry 2000 lbs before 1942, most prominent being the Tupolev SB. Blenheim carried 1000 lbs, while Beaufort was not fast. Early Do-17s (like the -E version) that were fast when compared with biplane fighters and French fighters were carrying 1100 lbs, while the later versions carrying 2000 lbs were no fast bomber anymore. French 2-engined bombers that managed more than 400 km/h, like the Potez 630, carried 900 lbs; 420-430 km/h was slow for 1939-40. Ki-48, that was supposed to be a 'better SB', was slow, with under 900 lbs bomb load - all despite using two engines. So there is a lot of air forces where a reasonably fast 1-engined bomber would've been a boon when compared with 2-engined bombers produced in many hundreds.
Should it have though? They were actually built for different jobs. The Hind had zero hope of hitting the German homeland (crossing the Rhine) from British bases unless on a suicide mission. Wiki says range of 460 miles, The Hind could have been used (in the early 30s) for interdiction behind the army front lines or for combat support.
The Battle was sold ( somewhat by politicians or RAF bomber advocates) as a 'strategic' bomber capable of hitting Germany.
In the 1930s the conventional wisdom was that dive bombers needed heavier construction than regular light bombers and would be inferior in performance due to the higher structural weight.
And we do have to be careful to compare years. Yes the Blenheim only carried 1000lbs, but it was faster by about 30mph than the Battle.
The Ki-48 had range and not much else. Using a pair of under 1000hp engines for a 4 man crew in 1940 was not a good idea.
But Sticking a licensed built DB 601 and retracting landing gear on one of these was not a good idea either.
You have different bomb storage problems. For the Ki-48 bomber the requested bomb load in 1937 was twenty four 15kg/33lb bombs or six 50kg/110lb bombs.
A bomb bay for a single 250kg HE or 500kg AP bomb can be much smaller.
Nothing was preventing people from making streamlined tactical and/or dive bombers.
The Hind and Battle could have a man lying prone using a bomb sight though a hole/window in floor for better "accuracy". Again we are back to what do you want the plane to do.We can again take a look at Battle's portly appearance - it's deep and long fuselage and it's big wing. Wing area was 90% of what the Blenheim, Mosquito or DB-7 had - not good when the Blenheim has 2/3rds more HP ( even after the engine-related drag does it's number on it)
Well, you keep asking for fastI'm probably a wrong person to accept a Japanese aircraft to be powered with the Japanese copy of the DB 601
For them - a radial in the nose, 'ordinary' wing with a retractable U/C and there it is.
Just pointing out that Army requirements and Navy requirements are not the same.Here the 'bomb chambers' like on the XF4U-1 might come in handy to help out with the 15 kg bombs; the 50 kg bombs should probably fit in the 'main' bomb bay under the fuselage. Once these are proved bad, and engine power is up (needs more fuel), have on that place fuel tanks instead.
Seems like the people at Yokosuka didn't gotten the memo, with their bomber doing 335 mph on 1 engine no better than the V-1710-39.
Ah yes, the Yokosuka Comet, Comet by name, blazing Comet by nature.
A disastrously bad design!
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Not having self-sealing tanks does matter.
Yes, it does, but this 'fast single engined bomber' only achieved the 'fast' by deleting basics like self sealing tanks and armour,
Its no good being fast if you aren't survivable. Which is back to the lessons learned from the Spanish Civil War, light single engined bombers simply didn't have the performance to survive on a modern battlefield. See the Battle and Devastator for good examples.
Which is back to the lessons learned from the Spanish Civil War, light single engined bombers simply didn't have the performance to survive on a modern battlefield. See the Battle and Devastator for good examples.
Neither the Battle or the Devastator were designed with the lessons of the Spanish civil war. They (and a number of other single and twin engine bombers) were designed before the Spanish Civil war and produced during it.Neither Battle nor Devastator were fast.
Which then counts as a successful intercept. The defending fighters have succeeded in stopping the enemy from bombing the target, at least for that day.Fighter/bombers could drop their ordnance and turn to fight.
Agreed.Which then counts as a successful intercept. The defending fighters have succeeded in stopping the enemy from bombing the target, at least for that day.
yes, most of the time.Agreed.
However, the intercepted "bombers" have a higher chance of surviving the bounce and will be available to try again another day.
You would probably want to look into a more thoroughly militarized or tailored He-70F. The airplane was underpowered but streamlined and very fast for its time. With 635 hp BMW-VI it was good for 377 Km/h. One specimen exported to Britain was refitted with Kestrel and an early 885hp Peregrine I and 418 Km/h (260 mph) and 481Km/h / 299 mph, respectively. The fuselage, however, may have been spacy enough to also consider the larger 1,200 hp JUMO-211.
There are at least two standards of "fast".
Can you runaway from a fighter that has a visual on you? Or at least make him chase you long enough to run into fuel or temperature problems before he gets to shoot. A 12mph speed advantage means the fighter can make up 1 mile of distance in 5 minutes.
Indeed the Battle would have been a speed demon in the Spanish Civil war. Or at least part of it.