1938 in Canada.

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Shortround6

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This post is based largely off a reprint of the 1938 Jane's all the worlds aircraft to describe the state of the aircraft industry in Canada. It is only one book and may well be in error and a number of things at the time were not available for publication. Publish date was after March 31st 1938 but I don't know how much after so this is a snap shot of that time. Comments by me will be in italics. This is going to be substantially edited.

Associated Aircraft, LTD.
Arrangements were made in 1938 in 1938 by the British Government with the Canadian AIrcraft Industry for the formation of a central company which would operate two main establishments and contract directly with the British Government for the manufacture of aircraft for the Royal AIr Force.
Two Factories will be established in Toronto and Montreal for the assembly of parts to be built by the Canadian industry. At the outset aero-engines will be imported from England. It is the intention that completed aircraft will be flown to England from Montreal.
No mention is made of the aircraft types.

C.C.F.
The company's plant at Fort William Ont, which has not been in use since 1923 has been re-opened for aircraft manufacture. This plant is one of the largest in the Dominion and covers 76 acres, the main building alone covering 200,000 sq ft. The Pointe St. Charles works has been remodeled for the assembly and testing of aero-engines.
The company's first order was for forty Grumman fighters for the Turkish government.
As covered in other places this order was actually from Spain to get around the American embargo to either side in the Spanish civil war. Fuselages were from Grumman, wings and tail surfaces were built by Brewster, engines by Wright and and parts (like landing gear) from American suppliers.

Canadian Vickers.
Canadian Vickers Limited Aircraft Department opened in 1923 and was the first company to begin the manufacture of aircraft on a commercial scale in the Dominion...............
The Canadian Vickers "Vedette" and "Vancouver" flying boats, which were first produced over 10 years ago, are no longer in production...................
The company is now manufacturing the Northrop "Delta" under licence from the Northrop Division of Douglas AIrcraft.
The "Delta" was used for survey work and 3 MK Is were built in 1936, 4 MK IIs were built in 1937, at the time of writing a further 13 were under construction. According to WIki it took until Oct 1940 to complete the 13 plane order.
The Company is also building the Supermarine "Stranraer" under licence from the Supermarine aviation Works (Vickers) Ltd. Orders for a total of tem of these boats have been placed with the Company by the Department of National Defence. It was expected that approximately one-half of these will be completed during 1938.
A total of 40 Stranraers would eventually be built in Canada.

Cub Aircraft Corporation Ltd

The Cub Aircraft Corporation Ltd has been formed to assemble and, later, manufacture under licence the American Piper "Cub" two seat light monoplane constructed by th ePiper AIrcraft Corpn. of Lock Haven PA.


De Havilland Aircraft of Canada. Ltd.
Pretty much as noted in the other thread except that 22 Tiger Months built in the year leading to March 21st 1938 were the first machines to be almost completely manufactured in the Canadian plant.


Fairchild AIrcraft, Ltd.

AS mentioned before they had about 52,000 sq ft of factory area in 1938 and had built 24 Fairchild 82 single engine planes and two twin engine Sekani prototypes.

In 1938 additional manufacturing equipment was installed to handle Dominion Government orders and work was progressing on the construction of a series of modified Bristol "Blenheim" monoplanes for the Department of Defence.
The Company holds the Canadian distributing rights for the Lockheed AIrcraft Corpn. and a number of Lockheed 10A and 14H monoplanes have been supplied to Trans-Canada Air Lines for the coast-to -coast air service.
The initial order was for just 18 modified Blenheims (Bolingbroke's) and the 18th was completed Aug 28th 1940. The first Bolingbroke IV was completed in Jan of 1941 and the 134th was completed March of 1942. Production reached 15 aircraft per month in the summer of 1942. The last plane of 626 built (I was in error earlier) was taken on charge in March of 1943.

Fleet Aircraft Ltd.

Fleet Aircraft Ltd. is an independent Canadian-owned company and is completely managed by Canadian personnel.
The company built an up-to-date factory in Fort Erie in 1930 and by 1937 and enlarged the factory to five times its original size.
The company had taken over the complete World'd rights from the Consolidated Aircraft Corpn. (U.S.A.), it's original parent company, for the fleet trainer and it has also developed the the Fleet twin-engine transport, which has been designed primarily for freight transport.
Fleet built hundreds of low powered trainer aircraft and had exported them to around 20 countries. They only wound up building 5 of the twin engine aircraft. Fleet did wind up making hundreds (over 1000?) of the Fairchild (American) PT-19/26 trainer as the Cornell.

National Steel Car Corporation, Ltd

In April 1938 the National Steel Car Corpn. entered into a licence agreement with Westland Aircraft, Ltd of Yoevil England to manufacture the Westland "Lysander" two seat Army Co-operation monoplane for the canadian Government by whom an initial contract has been places with the government. The National Steel Car Corpn. is the second largest manufacturer of rolling stock in Canada.

Noorduyn Aviation, Ltd

New works have been Acquired and it is expected that that manufacture of several new types will be undertaken in the near future.
The Company's principle product is the "Norseman" which is used by all the large Canadian aircraft operators.
In 1938 the company acquired the Canadian manufacturing and selling rights for the North American BT-9 trainer.

During the war those rights for the BT-9 turned into the AT-16 Harvard and Noorduyn built about 1800 of them.

Ottawa Car Manufacturing Co, Ltd

The Company is the sole canadian Manufacturing and selling agent for Sir W. G. Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft Ltd, A.V. Roe & Co. Ltd. and Armstrong Siddeley Motors, Ltd.
The factory is well equipped with aircraft and aero-engine erecting shops, doping shops and aero-engine testing department. ..................in 1938 it was engaged on the reconditioning of eighteen Westland "Wapiti" biplanes which had been supplied to the R.C.A.F. by the British AIr Ministry. All of these aircraft are modified to operate on skis in the winter and are fitted with heaters and canopy tops for operating in sub-zero temperatures.

Vancouver Aircraft Manufacturing Company

This is the company that was founded by Boeing but did operate as a Canadian company for a period of time.
In 1937 the Boeing Aircraft of Canada Ltd was awarded a contract by the Canadian Department of National Defense for the construction of eleven Blackburn Sharks reconnaissance biplanes to be built under licence. later the contract was changed to 20 aircraft. other details are in the other thread.
 
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I would note that during the war a few of these companies disappeared or merged with other companies or some changed ownership.
Vancouver Aircraft Manufacturing Company for example wound up back under Boing control and ended the war with at least three plants, two of them making sub assemblies for B-29s.
This company also made PBYs under licence.
 
It could be.

I posted what I could find in the reprint 1938 Jane's to show, while Canada did a magnificent job of tooling up and producing war material it took a while to get going.
There was no large untapped reserve (factories and pools of workers) sitting idle in 1938-39 that could produce any worthwhile quantity of warplanes in a "what if scenario". if they only had the plans/licence from the original manufacturer. Canada was being brought into the shadow factory scheme even in 1938, it just takes time to equipe factories ( or build new ones) and train workers. Perhaps things could have gone faster, but by how much?
Another thing that became apparent was how much of the early Canadian effort was geared to support the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan - Wikipedia.

once things got to late 1939.

Calls to build late 30s combat planes (already approaching obsolescence) that would impact the training program might have been counter productive.
 
With the Grumman Goblin having no hook, Canada produced three fixed wing carrier aircraft; the Sea Hurricane, Helldiver and Tracker. Only the latter operated from a Canadian flagged aircraft carrier. The Sea Hurricane was too late, but France operated the Helldiver on their carriers postwar.

Curtiss SB2C Helldiver - Wikipedia
 
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There was no large untapped reserve (factories and pools of workers) sitting idle in 1938-39 that could produce any worthwhile quantity of warplanes in a "what if scenario". if they only had the plans/licence from the original manufacturer.

Ahhh...I see now. I thought you were simply compiling an A-Z history of Canadian aviation companies of the period. Only just now realised this is in the "What If" section. Sorry.
Cheers.
 
It is sort of a combination of both.

For a realistic "what if" (if such a thing exists) you need to know where you are starting from, like what resources/factories/design teams are available.

Again, all possible credit to Canada and it's citizens for such a tremendous effort during WW II, helping to equip and train many other nations forces.
This is over and above what it's own armed forces accomplished.
 

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