Aces

[bronzewhaler82]

Gemans aces scored most aerial kills, busted most tanks, flak installations... Germans were\are the best pilots, so stop making excuses. Hartmann shot down 6 "`stangs" as I recall with his Bf109, and Rudel managed to crack open tanks, sink ships AND down fighters AND land to pickup his shot down comrades and all that under fire by flak and fighters AND HE DID THAT EVEN AFTER LOOSING A LEG.

And please stop trasing the Sturmvogel, it ripped your bombers apart like paper, and was allmost unmatched at speed and MOSTLY shot down when landing, so you could basically call a sopwith camel a jet killer just because he soars around Sturmvogel`s airports.

Douglas Bader lost BOTH legs and he was still killing Krauts with the best of them 8)

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

thank you, i was just about to make that point myself......................

 

[cheddar cheese]

and me......

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

I'll bite ya legs off

ya yellow bastard!
well youve lost one arm! its only a flesh wound!

Reichsmarschall Batista

 

[jj1982]

Bronzewhaler wrote
I think JJ1982 has learnt the error of his ways (I may live to regret that!)
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I dont think so my good english friend. I have seen the light and am now fully rehabilitated.

On another note....I fully agree with your comment about Douglas Bader....what a man, and i am sure that you have seen my previous comment about what such a good film the story of that man would make!

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

ehhhhh British patriotism! aint much better than Kit Carson and others he just had fake legs! big deal! so he cant walk good but it would make no real diff in a plane because the stiff legs would get to the pedals either way! he wasnt even the best! many (EGADS!) septic tank pilots were better! rudel cannot be compared to bader for this reason: bader flew high and dealt with fighters; rudel flew low and dealt with fighters, tanks, AND flak!

Reichsmarschall Batista

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Well, good for Rudel - its just a shame he was a German and was on the losing side after the war

 

[jj1982]

:fist: I'm sorry i nearly pissed my self with laughter when i saw that"!

 

[cheddar cheese]

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Don't give the pilots TOO much credit (a little is ok) thats why i've always been more interested in the aircraft than the pilots stories...it was the aircraft that did most of the hard work

 

[cheddar cheese]

me too 8)

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

yeah, i don't care much for the man that flew, them, no disscradit, they did a hell of a job, i'm just more interested in the planes.................

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Because the planes truly did most of the hard work... 8)

 

[cheddar cheese]

a plane is no good without a pilot though..... 8)

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Of course - i would never doubt that (Though the V1 did quite well didn't it ) but i was saying the pilots job wasn't as great as the planes - the pilot didn't have to carry a huge bombload to a distant target being pushed right to the limit in order to get to the target and get away ASAP plus the pilot wasn't being shot full of holes by AA or other aircraft plus of course if a plane gets shot down the pilot can escape (providing he isn't dead )..so all in all - the pilots had a limited job in the whole thing but obviously damn fine pilots made all the difference

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i wouldn't say they weren't pushed to their limits, in the BoB they would make as many as 5 of 6 hops in one day....................

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

Don't give the pilots TOO much credit (a little is ok) thats why i've always been more interested in the aircraft than the pilots stories...it was the aircraft that did most of the hard work

i agree (amazing isnt it?)

 

[bronzewhaler82]

Bloody hell! I think i'm going to faint! Germans agreed with me!

If you stare at this long enough it gives you a headache

 

[cheddar cheese]

can i say i disagree and cause a stir? 8) i think the pilots should get more credit, placing a bit of machinery above a person is just plain selfish if you ask me even though i am more interested in the planes, saying they deserve more credit than the pilots is just wrong

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

there you go, another thing we agree on.............