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I strongly suspect the problem is that the airframe could not accommodate a window in the correct place without expensive modifications.
Even the KC-135 required a fairing in the back where the boom operator had to be in the prone position. There may be no easy way to put one in a KC-46.
I recall one of the guys I worked with at Tinker AFB say that they were going TDY in a KC-135 and one guy decided to ride in the boomer's position. After takeoff they went back to take a look out from what is the best view in the airplane and found the guy almost unable to talk. When the airplane rotated on takeoff he was sure that it was going to smash him into the runway. So maybe the KC-46 can't handle having something that sticks down and comes that close to the runway on takeoff.
But, why man the station during TO?
Okay. I guess, my attitude is different. There were positions that we did not occupy in the Navy aircraft I flew in as a pax because there was no need for someone to be in them during takeoff.For Fun! There ain't a lot of windows in a KC-135. A man I worked with at Tinker AFB said that on one trip across the SW USA he settled down in that position during flight and found it to be just marvelous sightseeing. The Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, etc. Beats the heck out of any other vantage point in any other airplane.
Maybe no need, but the view from the nose bubble of a P2V is worth the price of admission. Just hope you don't hit a seagull.There were positions that we did not occupy in the Navy aircraft I flew in as a pax because there was no need for someone to be in them during takeoff.
Funny you should mention the P-2. My understanding is the nose was left unoccupied during TO and landing.Maybe no need, but the view from the nose bubble of a P2V is worth the price of admission. Just hope you don't hit a seagull.
The main reason for moving the boom operator's position was that otherwise they would have to leave a path through the cargo compartment on every flight for the operator to move forward to access the lavatory, access the required crash-rated seat during take-off & landing, etc.
This would restrict what cargoes they could carry, and reduce total cargo weight.
Apparently that had just been accepted with the KC-135, but the USAF insisted that the KC-46A had to eliminate that cargo restriction.
Yup, that's what NATOPS said. But certain inland based reserve squadrons full of old timers, older than NATOPS itself, sometimes winked at the "Blue Book".Funny you should mention the P-2. My understanding is the nose was left unoccupied during TO and landing.
They wouldn't have been out of Glenview?Yup, that's what NATOPS said. But certain inland based reserve squadrons full of old timers, older than NATOPS itself, sometimes winked at the "Blue Book".
Cheers,
Wes
Nope. Think even farther from big water than that. Where did you go to A School?They wouldn't have been out of Glenview?
Why Millington, of course. Funny thing, I can't remember any of the tenant commands.Nope. Think even farther from big water than that. Where did you go to A School?
When I was there, there was, besides NATTC, a Maintenance Officers School, a Navy/Marine aircraft maintenance records depot, a Marine Reserve A4 squadron, a Navy Reserve P2 squadron, and a USAF/Luftwaffe detachment from Luke AFB to support and turn around the German F104s that visited us almost daily. They had large US stars and bars on their wings and fuselages and a small iron cross on the vertical stab.Why Millington, of course. Funny thing, I can't remember any of the tenant commands.
At least they upgraded. In 1970 they had some pretty ratty looking A4Bs and Cs with numerous patches on their hides. Those birds had clearly paid their dues in harm's way. When I got out in '74, the Angels were flying A4Ms, and could put on quite a show. When VF43 showed up at Boca Chica in their "shiny new" (actually badass dull camouflage) A4Ms as the official aggressor squadron, it made VF101 sit up and take notice. No more tired TA4Fs as opponents.I was there 1981-82, and the USNR VP squadron was flying P-3s. The USMC squadron VMA-124 was still there, flying A-4Ms.