MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
So the real winner is Ukraine.
"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (2 Viewers)
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So the real winner is Ukraine.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Except the Russians have been saying the whole of Wagners manpower has signed with the Russian army.
Admiral Beez
Major
If a non-national entity attacks a NATO member what does the Alliance attack against?Well, this is interesting...
Putin sent Wagner to Belarus to prepare attack on Poland: Russian lawmaker
Wagner Group forces could take a key Polish region "in a matter of hours," MP Andrey Kartapolov recently alleged.www.newsweek.com
If the Wagners were to be sent anywhere it should have been to Crimea.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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If historical evidence is of any help. September 11 triggered article 5 for the first time in history and a US led NATO coalition invaded Afghanistan who was harboring Al-Qaeda.
Wagner is right now harbored by Belorussia. What may happen if Wagner attacks a NATO country is left as an exercise to the reader.
Nevertheless such a possibility remains for now in my fiction-history stack. And if the country being attacked is Poland I don't think there will be time to invoke article 5.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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Russia opened a criminal case against Colonel of GRU Vladimir Kvachkov, a close Girkin's ally and a member of the "Angry Patriots Club", accusing him of discrediting the Russian Armed Forces.
en.wikipedia.org
It is a notable case as Kvachkov is well-known in "patriotic" and "nationalist" circles in Russia, he is reasonably respected among Russian nationalists. He's a lover of spreading anti-Western, anti-Ukrainian hate, conspiracy theories, and imperialistic, pro-Soviet views. He's reasonably respected in the military. Despite appearing to be a perfect Putin supporter - Kvachkov is an experienced military man and spetsnaz theorist, it did not save him. Earlier, Kvachkov joined Girkin in the critique of the Russian Armed Forces, but was arguably more severe in his insults directed at Putin.
It is reported that a few weeks ago Kvachkov said the following: "Russia is the second best army in the world… excuse me, second best in Ukraine!"
Club of Angry Patriots - Wikipedia
It is a notable case as Kvachkov is well-known in "patriotic" and "nationalist" circles in Russia, he is reasonably respected among Russian nationalists. He's a lover of spreading anti-Western, anti-Ukrainian hate, conspiracy theories, and imperialistic, pro-Soviet views. He's reasonably respected in the military. Despite appearing to be a perfect Putin supporter - Kvachkov is an experienced military man and spetsnaz theorist, it did not save him. Earlier, Kvachkov joined Girkin in the critique of the Russian Armed Forces, but was arguably more severe in his insults directed at Putin.
It is reported that a few weeks ago Kvachkov said the following: "Russia is the second best army in the world… excuse me, second best in Ukraine!"
The big boom and fire:
www.bbc.com
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiJ4-I4RTII
Ukraine war: Russia strikes Ukraine grain after ending sea deal
Attacks on Black Sea ports destroy 60,000 tonnes of grain and damage infrastructure, officials say.
www.bbc.com
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiJ4-I4RTII
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RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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Putin will not attend the BRICS summit, Lavrov will go instead - Office of the President of the South African Republic.
www.thepresidency.gov.za
It is unfortunate that there is no ICC warrant for Lavrov yet.
South Africa finalises 15th BRICS Summit format | The Presidency
It is unfortunate that there is no ICC warrant for Lavrov yet.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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At a plenary session of the Russian parliament, Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko urged women to give birth as early as possible, rather than pursuing education and building a career:"A belief has been formed that a woman should first get an education, make a career, and then only worry about childbearing. It leads to many problems afterward. A woman should realize that the sooner she gives birth, the better". In Murashko's opinion, this should be explained to girls since school days, as well as similar propaganda to be spread among young women at the State Services. The minister believes that postponing childbirth is a "vicious practice" that allegedly causes infertility and miscarriage. Therefore, Murashko believes it is necessary to tell a woman that the earlier she gives birth, "the better for [her] health, for the health of her children and career in the long run."
Plain English translation: We need cannon fodder!
Plain English translation: We need cannon fodder!
Admiral Beez
Major
It would be interesting. A small Wagner force enters Poland to attack or sabotage the rail network into Ukraine. In immediate retaliation the Polish air force bomb Wagner's camp in Belarus whilst simultaneously declaring a NATO Article 5 event. Belarus is not Russia, so Putin can't claim NATO is at war with Russia, and NATO can now remove Belarus as a threat to Ukraine.If historical evidence is of any help. September 11 triggered article 5 for the first time in history and a US led NATO coalition invaded Afghanistan who was harboring Al-Qaeda.
Wagner is right now harbored by Belorussia. What may happen if Wagner attacks a NATO country is left as an exercise to the reader.
Nevertheless such a possibility remains for now in my fiction-history stack. And if the country being attacked is Poland I don't think there will be time to invoke article 5.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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U.S. to announce $1.3 bln in military aid for Ukraine. Package supposedly will include: air defenses, counter-drone systems, VAMPIRE weapon systems, exploding drones, ammunition, the Phoenix Ghost drones and the Switchblade.
www.reuters.com
U.S. to announce $1.3 bln in military aid for Ukraine -sources
The United States will announce a new pledge to buy $1.3 billion worth of military aid for Kyiv in its conflict with Russia in the coming days, two U.S. officials said.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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- Jul 5, 2015
Warning: Russian Source.
tass.com
Russian to English translation: "they were reportedly withdrawn from the frontline" = "They suck and they had to be towed away from Ukraine"
Russia's battlegroup South used Armata tanks in combat — source
After that, they were reportedly withdrawn from the frontline
tass.com
Russian to English translation: "they were reportedly withdrawn from the frontline" = "They suck and they had to be towed away from Ukraine"
Admiral Beez
Major
Nice! I hope Ukraine is getting more demining kit. There's some mention of Ukraine below.
M58 MICLIC - Wikipedia
US has delivered M58 Mine Clearing Line Charge MICLIC systems to Ukrai
According to a picture published on the "Ukraine Weapons Tracker" Twitter account on November 6, 2022, the Ukrainian army has received the M58 Mine Clearin
www.armyrecognition.com
No mention of the Python for Ukraine.
Python Minefield Breaching System - Wikipedia
Yes, but mainly before farmers tow them further into Ukraine.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I thought so.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Good point.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Given that two weeks ago Putin was saying that Wagner is 100% financed by the Kremlin, Russia could certainly be held responsible.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I'd really miss his smile.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
What he says is true. But it won't reverse over a century of anti-natalist propaganda.
What Rogerdelluria said is also true. But a surge in pregnancies today won't affect the pool of conscriptable bodies for at least 17 years.
Admiral Beez
Major
Imagine if Poland had this formidable of a military and this level of international support in 1939.
