"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)

[Admiral Beez]

Politicians Of all hues in every country say that we have donated this many billions and that so many billions and a high proportion and so much of it is bull. So much of what we have given was going to be disposed of.

All good points, but how should military aid be valued for better clarity ? Perhaps four categories:

1. newly produced for NATO - planned replacement for #3 and 4 below, thus any given to Ukraine will need replacing.
2. newly produced specifically for Ukraine - not depleting NATO stocks. For example 155mm shells shipped from production line to Ukraine.
3. Pulled from fresh stock - currently in NATO use, thus any donated stock will need to be replaced
4. Pulled from short dated or obsolete stock - sitting in warehouses, marked for replacement and/or disposal

The difference between # 3 and 4 would need some rules. For example, the Challenger 2 tank is marked for replacement, but not until the Challenger 3 arrives in the late 2020s. Nonetheless, such categorization of military aid valuation would help to placate domestic complaints that Ukraine is getting billions $ that could be otherwise spend on on domestic priorities. I'm most interested in how much military aid from the first three categories has been given.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

That's probably cheaper than paying for disposal anyway.

For Americans, if not Ukrainians.

 

[GTX]

Blast kills three Russian officers in occupied town of Melitopol, Ukrainian intelligence claims

At least three Russian officers have been killed in the Moscow-controlled Ukrainian city of Melitopol in a blast Ukraine's intelligence says was an "act of revenge" by local resistance groups.

www.abc.net.au

 

[GTX]

Canada to allocate new $385 Mn financial aid to Ukraine military support | Defense News November 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

Canada to allocate $385 Million for Ukraine military support

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[GTX]

Russia reorganizes its air defense systems amid losses in Ukraine | Defense News November 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

Russia Reorganizes its Air Defense Systems Amid Losses in Ukraine

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[GTX]

France may supply Ukraine with 8 CEFA Zone Demining Systems | Defense News November 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

France May Supply Ukraine with 8 SDZ Demining Machines

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[GTX]

Bullseye! A Grenade-Tossing Ukrainian Drone Knocked Out One Russian Tank—And Then Terrorized A Second Tank That Came To The Rescue

Not a bad day’s work for one very talented drone-operator, scoring bullseyes and near-bullseyes like a champ.

www.forbes.com

 

[GTX]

Russian Air-Defense Troops Tried To Deploy On A Fast Motorbike. A Ukrainian Drone Chased Them Down—And Killed Them.

The air over Krynky belongs to Ukrainian drone-operators and daring Ukrainian army helicopter pilots flying low-level rocket-attack sorties.

www.forbes.com

 

[Admiral Beez]

Well, that's good news.

De Telegraaf: US buys 60 Gepard anti-aircraft guns from Jordan to send to Ukraine - Euromaidan Press

In an effort to strengthen Ukraine's air defenses, the US has purchased 60 advanced Gepard anti-aircraft systems from Jordan, which were initially sold to Jordan by the Netherlands.

euromaidanpress.com

Now, what about Jordan's four hundred Challenger 1s? Refurbish them over the winter and send to Ukraine in spring 2024.

British Gulf War tanks may be modernized and sent to Ukraine

Rheinmetall is ready to buy Jordanian Challenger 1 tanks, bring them to Germany, refurbish and repair them, and send them to help Ukrainian ground forces.

bulgarianmilitary.com

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

Well, that's good news.

De Telegraaf: US buys 60 Gepard anti-aircraft guns from Jordan to send to Ukraine - Euromaidan Press

In an effort to strengthen Ukraine's air defenses, the US has purchased 60 advanced Gepard anti-aircraft systems from Jordan, which were initially sold to Jordan by the Netherlands.

euromaidanpress.com

What about the 35mm rounds?

 

[Admiral Beez]

What about the 35mm rounds?

It looks like Germany is ramping up production.

Germany ships first batch of new Gepard ammo to Ukraine

Rheinmetall modified existing 35mm ammunition from the main armament of an infantry fighting vehicle for use in the Gepard.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Admiral Beez]

Canada to allocate new $385 Mn financial aid to Ukraine military support | Defense News November 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

Canada to allocate $385 Million for Ukraine military support

www.armyrecognition.com

I'd support sending another eight Leopard 2 tanks. But I expect Canadian winter fighting and survival kit would be welcome.

 

[GrauGeist]

I'd support sending another eight Leopard 2 tanks. But I expect Canadian winter fighting and survival kit would be welcome.

I thought I read somewhere that Finland and Sweden were sending winter gear to Ukraine?

 

[GTX]

I thought I read somewhere that Finland and Sweden were sending winter gear to Ukraine?

Sweden did earlier this year

 

[GTX]

Takeaways From Russia’s Missile War On Ukraine

Russia has subjected Ukraine to a relentless missile bombardment since the full-scale war began, but its effectiveness has been mixed.

www.thedrive.com

 

[GTX]

US successfully tests first Ukrainian FrankenSAM air defense system

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www.armyrecognition.com

 

[GTX]

Ukraine to become first user of Rheinmetall Caracal air assault vehicles | Defense News November 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

Ukraine secures first deployment of Rheinmetall's Caracal air assault vehicles

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[GTX]

Russia prepares for a new wave of massive strikes on Ukraine

Recent satellite imagery reveals a notable accumulation of strategic bombers at the Engels Airbase in the Saratov region, raising alarms about the potential preparation for a new series of massive strikes on critical Ukrainian infrastructure. According to the eRADAR channel on Telegram, which...

defence-blog.com

 

[GTX]

Rheinmetall to send more Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine

Ukraine has inked a new contract with German weapons maker Rheinmetall to acquire 32 Leopard 1 tanks and special vehicles on their bases. In an official statement, Rheinmetall announced that the comprehensive deal, valued in the upper-two-digit million-euro range and financed by Germany...

defence-blog.com

 

[GTX]

Just to make things worse...

Ukrainian soldiers wrestle with a million-mouse invasion

On the battlefield in Ukraine, an extraordinary situation unfolds as military personnel find themselves battling not only enemies but also a swarm of millions of mice. In bunkers, trenches, and residential buildings, soldiers are bewilderedly fending off rodent attacks, causing unpredictable and...

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