"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (8 Viewers)

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When my wife and I were in Baden-Baden we heard similar stories about how rude Russian tourists were. At one spa they no longer allow Russians there.

There have been a lot of news items recently on how Bali and Thailand have had a gutfull of rude Russian draft dodgers and are making it difficult for them to arrive and stay.

The Russians I have worked with were good people so Russian people are like any others - mostly good with a layer of scum.
 
Included due to the comments on proposed use of A-10s for Ukraine:


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The A-10 is significantly slower than the Su-25. With prolific proliferation of MANPADS, speed matters. Ukraine needed the A-10 in Feb and March 2022 to smoke that undefended convoy that stalled outside Kyiv. But in 2024-2025, the A-10 will get shot out of the sky, wasting pilots that would otherwise be piloting F-16s.
 
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Presumably Russia will continue laying tens of thousands of mines in front of the two likely Ukrainian routes, that of the Tokmak and Kherson City counteroffensives. Ukraine has three options: go through, around or over the minefields. How feasible are any of these?
 
The A-10 (as has been exhaustively explained many times prior), has new threat upgrade countermeasures that protect it from portable (man and fixed) surface to air ordnance.

And again, the fact sheet for the A-10C is provided:

 
The A-10 has countermeasures that protect it from portable surface to air ordnance.
It doesn't matter. Ukraine wants F-16s that can engage targets while still behind Ukrainian lines. The A-10s plodding circuits over the front in 2024-2025 would put the pilots at great risk, especially when drones are seemingly doing the same anti-armour role the A-10 was designed for, but at zero risk to the operator. This is the future for Ukraine.
 
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A drone can kill a tank. A-10 can kill a lot of them. It has also a lot of other tricks in its sleeve.
Given that Russia has to date lost something like fifteen thousand tanks and AFVs, I don't think Ukraine is lacking in anti-armour capabilities. What Ukraine needs is a means to get through, around or over the "Surovikin Line" and its hundreds of thousands of landmines and defensive works.

If Ukraine can achieve aerial and anti-air superiority over their Tokmak-leading salient in western Zaporizhzhia, then I agree the A-10 could do wonders to tear the Russians defending Tokmak apart. That's where the F-16 would help.
 
I'd like to discuss how Ukraine's offensive to Melitopol and how the AFU can overcome the land mines and fortifications between their current salient and Tokmak.

Is going through the minefields the only reasonable way forward? How can Ukraine pull that off? Most, if not all mine clearing and other engineering vehicles are slow moving and need air superiority to order to operate without getting destroyed. So, that means Ukraine must wait until its air force is significantly updated, likely by autumn 2024.

What other options are there? Can you go over or around the minefields?
 

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