"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again."
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Putin rejects full ceasefire in Trump call but agrees to key US demand
Russian President Vladimir Putin has rejected an immediate full ceasefire in his country's war in Ukraine, but has agreed to stop attacks on energy infrastructure while negotiations for a permanent truce take place, the White House and Kremlin say.
www.abc.net.au
Anyone who pushes Ukraine to agree to Russia's demand that a full ceasefire is contingent upon foreign countries stopping provision of arms and intelligence to Ukraine is either a fool or in bed with the Russians. This is tantamount to surrender and will only result in one thing.
Germany poised to unlock €3B Ukraine aid after historic spending deal
The aid package for the embattled country had been held up for months due to resistance from outgoing Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
www.politico.eu
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
A very important player wasn't mentioned.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Naturally not because they are expected to roll over and expose their throat so it can be ripped out by the two wolves posing as mediators.
Did you all realise that Ukraine is expected to stop all its attacks on Russian energy and infrastructure and all Black Sea operations as a part of this deal?
A great deal for Putin and suicide for Ukraine.
Did you all realise that Ukraine is expected to stop all its attacks on Russian energy and infrastructure and all Black Sea operations as a part of this deal?
A great deal for Putin and suicide for Ukraine.
Yep
Admiral Beez
Major
I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see a ceasefire and final settlement where Ukraine regains much of anything in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, let alone Luhansk and Donetsk. And forget about Crimea. Can anyone suggest a path where Ukraine regains any of this lost territory in an US-brokered settlement with Russia? Now that Russia has liberated Kursk, I expect Putin will agree to a ceasefire on the current frontlines and call it a victory.
Warspite63
Senior Airman
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- Dec 8, 2022
Sadly, I think you're probably correct in that assessment
I think it is even worse than that. A ceasefire of the sort hinted at will not only reward Putin/Russia for the illegal acts (incl war crimes), it will only pause things to allow Russia to regroup before attacking again. As multiple have said, Russia always breaks the deals!
