"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (9 Viewers)
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One of the best russian generals is back at the front ..... commanding a Cannonfodder Bn. Due to his criticism of his higher command, notably Gerasimov, he's likely supposed to die in battle.
Good riddance to him
Glider
Major
There are a number of bits of this that really stick in my throat. The major one is Trump saying that you shouldn't start a war with someone twenty times your size. The clear implication being that it was Ukraine who started the war.
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RogerdeLluria
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Yes, they started the war as soon as they resisted being conquered in a 3-day military operation.
Glider
Major
Damn, your right. I forgot that part.
Warspite63
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Words fail me
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I wonder if "who started the war" will be remembered in history as another political meme along with "who lost China", etc.
Ah, and the answer is clear. The one who was attacked, of course! So simple.
TASS in 1939 about the Soviet invasion of Finland:
"...the Finnish military clique has begun to indulge in revolting provocations, not stopping short of artillery fire upon our troops near Leningrad..."
"...the Soviet Government was compelled yesterday to declare that it now considered itself released from the engagements which it had undertaken under the Treaty of Non-aggression concluded between the USSR and Finland and which had been irresponsibly violated by the Finnish Government."
"...The foreign Press hostile to us declares that our action is aimed at seizing and annexing to the USSR Finnish territory. This is a malicious slander. The Soviet Government never did, and does not now, cherish any such intentions."
Ah, and the answer is clear. The one who was attacked, of course! So simple.
TASS in 1939 about the Soviet invasion of Finland:
"...the Finnish military clique has begun to indulge in revolting provocations, not stopping short of artillery fire upon our troops near Leningrad..."
"...the Soviet Government was compelled yesterday to declare that it now considered itself released from the engagements which it had undertaken under the Treaty of Non-aggression concluded between the USSR and Finland and which had been irresponsibly violated by the Finnish Government."
"...The foreign Press hostile to us declares that our action is aimed at seizing and annexing to the USSR Finnish territory. This is a malicious slander. The Soviet Government never did, and does not now, cherish any such intentions."
War with Finland
Viacheslav Molotov, Radio Address. November 29, 1939 A press release of the Tass Agency. MEN AND WOMEN, citizens of the Soviet Union, the hostile policy pursued by the present Finnish Govern…
soviethistory.msu.edu
Excellent article about the contribution of the DPRK to the war.
www.reuters.com
Beyond the paywall:
North Korea soldiers, weapons helped Russia at critical moment in war on Ukraine
North Korea supplied huge quantities of Russian artillery and mortar shells fired against Ukrainian forces.
Is this an accurate description of how this started..https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...to-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-idUSKBN2KX2AM/
Admiral Beez
Major
My concern is that many of my neighbors to the south seem to genuinely believe this. The prevailing culture in the US right now feels increasingly focused on rejecting expertise and knowledge, in favor of populism and tribalism. It's troubling to see how these forces are shaping the discourse.
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Thumpalumpacus
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I wonder if "who started the war" will be remembered in history as another political meme along with "who lost China", etc.
Ah, and the answer is clear. The one who was attacked, of course! So simple.
TASS in 1939 about the Soviet invasion of Finland:
"...the Finnish military clique has begun to indulge in revolting provocations, not stopping short of artillery fire upon our troops near Leningrad..."
"...the Soviet Government was compelled yesterday to declare that it now considered itself released from the engagements which it had undertaken under the Treaty of Non-aggression concluded between the USSR and Finland and which had been irresponsibly violated by the Finnish Government."
"...The foreign Press hostile to us declares that our action is aimed at seizing and annexing to the USSR Finnish territory. This is a malicious slander. The Soviet Government never did, and does not now, cherish any such intentions."
War with Finland
Viacheslav Molotov, Radio Address. November 29, 1939 A press release of the Tass Agency. MEN AND WOMEN, citizens of the Soviet Union, the hostile policy pursued by the present Finnish Govern…soviethistory.msu.edu
You can change the clothes, but you cannot change the man.
FWIW, the casus belli referred to here is the Shelling of Mainila - Wikipedia
, a false flag operation where the USSR shelled their own village close to the border.
My family left Canada to emigrate to the U S in the late 1800s. We took and kept our values when we left. You seem to know little of people of French Canadian history.
Thumpalumpacus
Lieutenant Colonel
To be fair, French-Canadians are a tiny subset in American demographics. While your family's experience is part of American culture, I think Beezy's points about populism and tribalism here are apt -- and I write that opinion as a native Texan. What's happening here and now is not in concordance with the values of many Americans of many stripes.
America seems to be in a curled-up rope-a-dope thing, but without Ali's right hook any more. Americans nowadays seem too busy fighting each other to look outwards.
My apologies to the staff if this is too political, delete as needed and I'll take what you deem necessary as a corrective.
special ed
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Visit deep south Louisiana. You will find the Acadians (Cajuns), many still speaking French and English with unique accent. Get back in the swamp and some still make their living as they have for decades. Great friendly folks who like their coffee STRONG.
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