"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)

[ThomasP]

Hey Admiral Beez,

Not saying I disagree with you about the Ukraine affording a Ticonderoga class, or its suitability for Black Sea operations by Ukraine, but the crew size is ~100 less than the Moskva (ie 400 vs 500).

 

[GrauGeist]

Hey Admiral Beez,

Not saying I disagree with you about the Ukraine affording a Ticonderoga class, or its suitability for Black Sea operations by Ukraine, but the crew size is ~100 less than the Moskva (ie 400 vs 500).

And 100 more crew (roughly) than a Krivak class Frigate.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Hey Admiral Beez,

Not saying I disagree with you about the Ukraine affording a Ticonderoga class, or its suitability for Black Sea operations by Ukraine, but the crew size is ~100 less than the Moskva (ie 400 vs 500).

Okay, but the Moskva wasn't operated by the UAF

 

[wlewisiii]

Pity the Independence & Freedom class LCS ships turned out to be such dogs. IF they'd worked as planned, transferring a couple of them might have been good for Ukraine's navy.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Okay, but the Moskva wasn't operated by the UAF

No, but her sister Slava class, the cruiser Ukraina was supposed to be. Wouldn't that have made for a good match, Slava vs. Slava.

 

[XBe02Drvr]

No, but her sister Slave class, the cruiser Ukraina was supposed to be. Wouldn't that have made for a good match, Slava vs. Slava.

How Drachnifellian!

 

[Jagdflieger]

No, but her sister Slave class, the cruiser Ukraina was supposed to be. Wouldn't that have made for a good match, Slava vs. Slava.

Yes I know, but never used and not even finished/ready for operations. - no maybe not a good match

 

[ThomasP]

I am thinking that if a full capability Ticonderoga became available, the Ukrainian navy would find the man power if they though it was a useful ship for the Black Sea.

 

[XBe02Drvr]

Is this data reliable? I'm curious about the possibility of the following

1. Cyber-attacks against the US that could cripple the country
2. State of Emergency declared in NATO countries as a precautionary measure
3. State of Emergency declared in the United States as a precautionary measure
4. Escalation to nuclear war

Relax, Zipper, que sera sera. What will be, will be. Nothing you or I can do will change it, so let's maintain an even strain and not get high on anxiety. Make the most of today and deal with tomorrow when it raises its ugly head. My recipe for health and a good life.

 

[SaparotRob]

If that fails, play with a dog.

 

[Admiral Beez]

I am thinking that if a full capability Ticonderoga became available, the Ukrainian navy would find the man power if they though it was a useful ship for the Black Sea.

I could see Ukraine getting two of Britain's Type 23 frigates as the final dozen leave RN service. But they're lacking any land attack missiles.

Good video channel for updates...

 

[wlewisiii]

I could see Ukraine getting two of Britain's Type 23 frigates as the final dozen leave RN service. But they're lacking any land attack missiles.

Good video channel for updates...

There are 15 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigates in the Inactive Fleet Storage in Philadelphia. I could see one or three of them being a very good transfer to Ukraine. Poland and Turkey are already operating these frigates so there would be easily tapped local experience.

 

[Zipper730]

There are other news articles saying the same thing

Putin to undergo cancer surgery, transfer power to ex-FSB chief: report

Russian President Vladimir Putin is set to undergo cancer surgery and temporarily hand over power to a hardliner former federal police chief.

nypost.com

 

[GrauGeist]

The Ukrainian Navy did receive five Island Class cutters from the U.S. Coast Guard (I beleive one of them was sunk in the early days of the war) as well as two to the Georgian Navy, so providing US ships to the Ukraine would not be anything new.

 

[Admiral Beez]

There are 15 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigates in the Inactive Fleet Storage in Philadelphia. I could see one or three of them being a very good transfer to Ukraine. Poland and Turkey are already operating these frigates so there would be easily tapped local experience.

Nice. Add some TLAM system like Norway's NSM or TLAM-D (Tomahawk with cluster munition) for added bombardment capability and we're all set.

I can see this war solidly strengthening the already warm relationship between Ukraine and Poland. They've come a long way since Polish–Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

 

[wlewisiii]

 

[buffnut453]

There are 15 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigates in the Inactive Fleet Storage in Philadelphia. I could see one or three of them being a very good transfer to Ukraine. Poland and Turkey are already operating these frigates so there would be easily tapped local experience.

The problem is how do you get them to Ukraine? Since Ukraine is a combatant, I have to assume that the Dardanelles would be closed to them. Perhaps the workaround would be to declare their main operating base as Odesa which should (stress SHOULD) allow their entry to the Black Sea.

 

[GrauGeist]

I beleive the home port has to be officially registered prior to the outbreak of hostilities.

A workaround would be to have either Bulgaria or Romania "purchase" them and then turn around and "donating" them to Ukraine?

 

[wlewisiii]

 

[Admiral Beez]

The problem is how do you get them to Ukraine?

No, I'm referring to postwar. When the UAF needs rebuilding. The last thing Ukraine needs now is naval strength when tanks, mechanized artillery, IFVs, APCs, drones, and infantry weapons are needed.