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Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the status of the evacuated troops and did not answer whether the Ukrainian soldiers would be treated as war criminals or as prisoners of war.
"[President Vladimir] Putin has guaranteed that they will be treated in line with the relevant international laws," he said, refusing to provide any further details on what will happen to the evacuated troops.
Unsurprisingly, Russia is again sending mixed-messages with zero specific details. "International laws" is a very broad topic and could be used by the Kremlin to bring these men to trial on some charge or other (e.g. terrorism). Personally, I don't envy their position. I hope they're treated well by their Russian captors...but I'm not holding my breath.
Wasnt there talk of exchanging prisoners?
Here is the vid for those who understand Russian, with subtitles, but as I don't speak russian, can't say how accurate they are.This blunt assessment of Russia's difficulties in Ukraine is surprising in that it aired on Russian national TV:
LONDON, May 17 (Reuters) - One military analyst had a brutally frank message for viewers of Russian state television: The war in Ukraine will get much worse for Russia, which is facing a mass mobilisation supported by the United States while Russia is almost totally isolated.
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"You should not swallow informational tranquilizers," Mikhail Khodaryonok, a retired colonel, told the "60 Minutes" talk show on Rossiya-1 hosted by Olga Skabeyeva, one of the most pro-Kremlin journalists on television.
"The situation, frankly speaking, will get worse for us," said Khodaryonok, a regular guest on state TV who gives often candid assessments of the situation.
He said that Ukraine could mobilise 1 armed million men.
Khodaryonok, a military columnist for the gazeta.ru newspaper and a graduate of one of Russia's elite military academies, cautioned before the invasion that such a step would not be in Russia's national interests.
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"The desire to defend one's motherland in the sense that it exists in Ukraine - it really does exist there and they intend to fight to the last," Khodaryonok said before he was interrupted by Skabeyeva.
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"The main thing in our business is have a sense of military-political realism: if you go beyond that then the reality of history will hit you so hard that you will not know what hit you," he said.
"Don't wave rockets in the direction of Finland for goodness sake - it just looks rather funny," he said.
Russia, he said, was isolated.
"The main deficiency of our military-political position is that we are in full geopolitical solitude and - however we don't want to admit it - practically the whole world is against us - and we need to get out of this situation."
Ukraine will get worse for isolated Russia, analyst says on state TV
One military analyst had a brutally frank message for viewers of Russian state television: The war in Ukraine will get much worse for Russia, which is facing a mass mobilisation supported by the United States while Russia is almost totally isolated.www.reuters.com
He'll be logging in Siberia before too long, I bet.
When this war is over and the rebuilding of a new Ukraine is underway, one in which western values of democracy and civil society are expected to prevail (as part of a drive to EU membership), where some new nation-building exercise and a relationship between Ukrainian citizens of both Russian and Ukrainian descent must be formed, the government in Kyiv might secretly thank the Russians for liquidating or incarcerating these potential troublemakers. They'll be hailed as national heroes of course, for the most part posthumously or in absentia. They served their purpose.Some Azov fighters originally had links to nationalist and far-right groups. The regiment was later incorporated into Ukraine's National Guard.
If his prediction comes true and there are soon to be one million NATO-armed, US/EU-financed Ukrainians... well, Russia's special operation in Ukraine is over.Here is the vid for those who understand Russian, with subtitles, but as I don't speak russian, can't say how accurate they are.
Although I disagree with the Siberia option. I think he will be invited to take tea.
Excuse me? Azov men and women are troublemakers only for the aggressors.When this war is over and the rebuilding of a new Ukraine is underway, one in which western values of democracy and civil society are expected to prevail (as part of a drive to EU membership), where some new nation-building exercise and a relationship between Ukrainian citizens of both Russian and Ukrainian descent must be formed, the government in Kyiv might secretly thank the Russians for liquidating or incarcerating these potential troublemakers. They'll be hailed as national heroes of course, for the most part posthumously or in absentia. They served their purpose.
I have to say that he was speaking well with a lot of common sense. The last statement said it all, 'It's a situation we need to get out of'Here is the vid for those who understand Russian, with subtitles, but as I don't speak russian, can't say how accurate they are.
Although I disagree with the Siberia option. I think he will be invited to take tea.
That was interesting!As an ethnic Russian, I always felt safe in Ukraine, in any region.
And that bit that the "whole world is against us"..... that's a very candid statement for Russian state TV. Could this be a sign of internal dissent?I have to say that he was speaking well with a lot of common sense. The last statement said it all, 'It's a situation we need to get out of'
1- not surprising for me! The leader of Islamic regime and related propaganda units / organizations claim that they were alone in fight against "Baathist Infidels". They even banned any talk about US / Israel helps (in any form / shape) to Iran's political and military.1- the "whole world is against us"...
2- It took years for the likes of Brazil to choose sides in WW2.
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The anchor Olga Skabeyeva looks miserable, likely expecting a visit from the State TV komisariat once the show airs.I have to say that he was speaking well with a lot of common sense. The last statement said it all, 'It's a situation we need to get out of'
2- never heard of this before. Very interesting... Any links for further reading?