Ukraine made several ground-to-ground tests with S-125, S-300 and (probably) Buk-1M in past. It was considered a stop-gap measure for the coastal defence before anti-ship missiles are deployed.
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Ukraine made several ground-to-ground tests with S-125, S-300 and (probably) Buk-1M in past. It was considered a stop-gap measure for the coastal defence before anti-ship missiles are deployed.My son told me about this earlier tonight. My initial reaction is that they must be running low on general PGMs to be shooting off SAMs at ground targets.
It'd be a shame if the Ukrainians showed up with a hundred or so F-16s.
With creativity and natural resources.How is putler supposed to take Alaska now?
What? What's this?Russia doesn't produce tanks, UralVagonZavod with half production
At the moment, UralVagonZavod does not produce the desired amount of tanks but has focused its efforts on repairing destroyed combat equipment, sources said.bulgarianmilitary.com
Ukrainian scrap dealers.What? What's this?
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" .....another Russian manufacturer, Barnaul Machine Building Plant is losing customers, including countries from North America, .....
Who is buying Russian tanks?
Not a tank nor recent, but BaT is a great source for all things vehicular. Soviet 8x8: BTR-80 Armored TransporterWho is buying Russian tanks?
And what I find interesting, is that the Einsatzgruppen were "special operation" units.Putin reminds me more and more of Hitler, he too believed the shit he was speaking about, counting and playing with ghost armies and divisions
Now that the Russians have "paused" what does Ukraine need to begin its offensive into the Donbas? It's one thing to destroy ammo depots with the new HIMARS, but a sustained offensive?
Scraping the bottom of the barrel, perhaps?
My son told me about this earlier tonight. My initial reaction is that they must be running low on general PGMs to be shooting off SAMs at ground targets.
It'd be a shame if the Ukrainians showed up with a hundred or so F-16s.
Well, not sure about S-300, but this certainly looks like scraping the bottom of the barrelIt could also have negative tones in that the Russians don't feel the air threat warrants the use of the system in its primary role.
Ukrainian needs and losses as reported on 15 June:1) Time ( T ThomasP got there first). Ukraine's forces, like the Russians, are also battered, and while new classes of recruits are coming in, they too will need time to be folded into units. Tired units will need to be reconstituted, resupplied, and and brought back to battlefield snuff. Damaged vehicles will need repairs.
2) New equipment. They've likely lost quite a bit of equipment, and what isn't damaged or destroyed is probably worn by the incessant combat. In the offensive, mobility is key unless you're aiming for a grinding battle, so trucks and APCs, along with escorting vehicles. I seem to remember reading that the Ukrainians have lost about 500 tanks and other armor. Also, more artillery. Lots more, preferably self-propelled due to it being able to follow an advance efficiently.
Ideally more and better aircraft. I hope that's going on under wraps, say, in Germany, but that seems like hopeless optimism on my part.
3) Training. They will not only need training on most of the new equipment, they will need time for retraining in order to make sure that forces that have been fighting defensively can turn around and actively prosecute an offensive. They will also have to, as noted above, train and incorporate new troops into the force.
4) I haven't heard much on this score, but I bet they're going to need quite a bit of fuel.
5) A damned good plan, to maximize the capabilities of their forces.
They didn't so much pause at Stalingrad and Leningrad but more were ground to a halt by their losses, logistical limitations and the ferocity of the enemy. Germany didn't decide to pause, the Russians forced them to. Now, had the Sixth Army paused outside of Stalingrad, waited for their logistics to catch up, and then disregarded the city by moving southward instead, they might have done better. Sometimes a pause to resupply and plan is beneficial.If Putin is playing from Hitler's playbook (which it appears he is), then he should know that when the German Army paused at Stalingrad and Leningrad, it allowed the Red Army to rally and go on the offensive.
In warfare, one does not pause - to do so allows the enemy to reinforce, regroup and reconfigure.
Obviously Putler never read the books by Rommel or Patton.
Kaliningrad/ Koningsberg /Królewiec since USSR collapse is counted by Polish military as potential flashing point. From one side huge threat as region with biggest concentration of military hardware in the world right now from other hand - because of limited size - it is also trap for russian troops exposed for , sea, air and long range land attacks. In a case of conflict preventive strike eliminating this forces is more than probable element of NATO strategy.I was examining this GPS (I had a similar one) and noticed a few things and learned a few more. It looks like this guy is flying close to a town called "Pravdinsk" located Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia. This area from what I understand is part of Russia but detached from Russia and is surrounded by Poland and Lithuania. There are a number of military bases there, it would seem this would be a real hotspot should things escalate in the region.
Dimlee , J J_P_C any thoughts, information?
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Lastly, it's worth considering what the fifty mostly dated warplanes of the 132nd Aviation Division bring to the fold. The 4th Naval Attack Regiment mixes older Su-24M supersonic bombers with modern Su-30SM multi-role fighters. Both are armed with anti-ship missiles, and the latter can also perform air-to-air missions.
Meanwhile, the 689th Fighter Regiment primarily consists of agile but aging Su-27P fighters, though these are to be replaced with Su-27SM and Su-35S multi-role fighters.
There's also the 396th Composite Helicopter Regiments based at Donskoe, which fields a squadron each of Mi-24 gunships, Ka-27M anti-submarine and search-and-rescue helicopters, and Mi-8 and Ka-29 transport choppers.
The aviation contingent, however, notably lacks maritime surveillance aviation besides some Forpost drones derived from the Israeli IAI Searcher drone.
The Germans were actually stopped because their logistical tail couldn't catch up. This is what has happened to the Russian forces and both cases are examples of theThey didn't so much pause at Stalingrad and Leningrad but more were ground to a halt by their losses, logistical limitations and the ferocity of the enemy. Germany didn't decide to pause, the Russians forced them to. Now, had the Sixth Army paused outside of Stalingrad, waited for their logistics to catch up, and then disregarded the city by moving southward instead, they might have done better. Sometimes a pause to resupply and plan is beneficial.
Thanks for the input and now seeing it on a map I agree.Kaliningrad/ Koningsberg /Królewiec since USSR collapse is counted by Polish military as potential flashing point. From one side huge threat as region with biggest concentration of military hardware in the world right now from other hand - because of limited size - it is also trap for russian troops exposed for , sea, air and long range land attacks. In a case of conflict preventive strike eliminating this forces is more than probable element of NATO strategy.
Your right, its a race to repair the equipment and the men, retrain learning the lessons of the recent conflict and reconstitute the units. On this I am a little hopeful as the vast majority of the people in Ukraine want to defend their homeland, and the majority of the Russian forces (and their allies) don't want to be there1) Time ( T ThomasP got there first). Ukraine's forces, like the Russians, are also battered, and while new classes of recruits are coming in, they too will need time to be folded into units. Tired units will need to be reconstituted, resupplied, and and brought back to battlefield snuff. Damaged vehicles will need repairs.
Maybe, just maybe this is one where the Ukraine have a slight advantage. The average quality of the new equipment Ukraine is getting is at least as good and often better than what they had originally. Whereas the average quality of the equipment the Russian forces are getting is worse than they originally had. Russia still has a very significant numerical advantage, but that advantage seems to be getting slowly eroded2) New equipment. They've likely lost quite a bit of equipment, and what isn't damaged or destroyed is probably worn by the incessant combat. In the offensive, mobility is key unless you're aiming for a grinding battle, so trucks and APCs, along with escorting vehicles. I seem to remember reading that the Ukrainians have lost about 500 tanks and other armor. Also, more artillery. Lots more, preferably self-propelled due to it being able to follow an advance efficiently.
Totally agree. It's something that I have been banging on about since the start of this conflict.Ideally more and better aircraft. I hope that's going on under wraps, say, in Germany, but that seems like hopeless optimism on my part.
I kept these together as in Training and Planning, these are two areas where the Ukraine does seem to have a firm advantage. If they had fought the way they had been trained prior to 2014 they this conflict could easily have been over by now. We have seen ordinary civilian workers manning Tanks and other complex weapons with aplomb and self evident success.3) Training. They will not only need training on most of the new equipment, they will need time for retraining in order to make sure that forces that have been fighting defensively can turn around and actively prosecute an offensive. They will also have to, as noted above, train and incorporate new troops into the force.
4) I haven't heard much on this score, but I bet they're going to need quite a bit of fuel.
5) A damned good plan, to maximize the capabilities of their forces.