"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (3 Viewers)

[at6]

I wonder what will happen to the Chechens?

Starving Orcs will eat them?

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

Not sure on the first question as more modern gear isn't my thing.

As to question two, if you are inside a tank you don't have a massively good ride once the ground gets lumpy so you can be off balance
pretty easily. A full steel infantry type helmet isn't good as you need to be able to move around - the bulk on your head wouldn't help
plus you already have a bit of armour around you anyway. The soft type stops the smacks and whacks from all the stuff sticking out
inside. A lot of AFV helmets in Western style use have a soft liner with a hard outer, a lot like a motor cycle helmet. These allow easy
movement with cushioning as well.

Many thanks!

 

[RogerdeLluria]

 

[RogerdeLluria]

 

[RogerdeLluria]

Seen this rumor in several places. It may be true, but it may also be an Ukrainian spread rumour tu unstabilize Russian troops there.

 

[RogerdeLluria]

Oh boy...

(Oh boy ...)^2

 

[Glider]

(Oh boy ...)^2

To me this has shades of the breakup of Yugoslavia

 

[XBe02Drvr]

Re: The Su-25 pilots may not have the aviating skill level for combat. The MiG-25 pilot who defected to Japan said in his book they were lucky to get 10 hours per month in harvest season as the pilots were used to drive the tractors.

But they will have the basic skills for basic tactical maneuvers like flying in formation and doing multi-ship take offs. If this was a simple IFE, he "should have" had the training to address the situation.

I've met (and flown) with a few Russian pilots who made their way to the US and their skill level varied. One guy claimed he had several hundred hours in MiG-21s, he could fly good but his formation skills were poor compared to US pilots I've been around.

It looked to me like the wingman was sloppy in his formation flying. He got "sucked" in the turn, then steepened and closed too fast on lead, trying to duck under to avoid collision, perhaps with "boards out" and throttles snatched back, placing him slow and dirty in lead's right wingtip vortice, whereupon he slid left through the lead's jet blast, flaming out one or both engines. Low, slow, and dirty, high AoA and sudden thrust reduction, tends to invite a gravity takeover. He already was sliding and rolling left, so the resulting stall was asymmetric.

 

[drgondog]

He may be stupid but lets hope he's not dumb

neither, but he may be insane.

 

[Glider]

According to the British MOD the Russian 1st Guards Tank Army, the most prestigious Unit in Russia has been severely degraded.

The 1st Guards Tank Army, of the Western Military District, will require "years" to rebuild its capability as the main unit designed to defend Moscow and lead counter-attacks in the case of war with Nato, Britain's Ministry of Defence said on Tuesday.

In its daily intelligence briefing, the MoD said: "Elements of the Russian forces withdrawn from Kharkiv Oblast over the last week were from the 1st Guards Tank Army (1 GTA), which are subordinate to the Western Military District (WEMD).

"1 GTA suffered heavy casualties in the initial phase of the invasion and had not been fully reconstituted prior to the Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kharkiv."

If units such as this have been so badly handled, I doubt that Putin can do much. Any replacements will not be close to as well trained and equipped, while the Ukraine will be substantially strengthened as they further integrate their modern western equipment

His only chance is to defend for the next six months and try to rebuild his units.

 

[drgondog]

According to the British MOD the Russian 1st Guards Tank Army, the most prestigious Unit in Russia has been severely degraded.

The 1st Guards Tank Army, of the Western Military District, will require "years" to rebuild its capability as the main unit designed to defend Moscow and lead counter-attacks in the case of war with Nato, Britain's Ministry of Defence said on Tuesday.

In its daily intelligence briefing, the MoD said: "Elements of the Russian forces withdrawn from Kharkiv Oblast over the last week were from the 1st Guards Tank Army (1 GTA), which are subordinate to the Western Military District (WEMD).

"1 GTA suffered heavy casualties in the initial phase of the invasion and had not been fully reconstituted prior to the Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kharkiv."

If units such as this have been so badly handled, I doubt that Putin can do much. Any replacements will not be close to as well trained and equipped, while the Ukraine will be substantially strengthened as they further integrate their modern western equipment

His only chance is to defend for the next six months and try to rebuild his units.

I suspect one 'chance' is to suspend all energy products to NATO countries and bring the economies to brink of disaster. Continue shutting down Ukraine energy Grid to zero. Hold existing eastern and southern ports of entry and continue strangling logistics for war materials, food and medicine.

Losing key assets is damaging to the offensive, no doubt - but recall that Russia has not declared War or mobilized yet. Ukraine can not trade troop losses.

Everybody hopes this will remain conventional, but -

 

[SaparotRob]

Glad to see ZSU east of that river by Kupiansk. The Ukrainian Army has a better handle on river crossings.

 

[SaparotRob]

It looked to me like the wingman was sloppy in his formation flying. He got "sucked" in the turn, then steepened and closed too fast on lead, trying to duck under to avoid collision, perhaps with "boards out" and throttles snatched back, placing him slow and dirty in lead's right wingtip vortice, whereupon he slid left through the lead's jet blast, flaming out one or both engines. Low, slow, and dirty, high AoA and sudden thrust reduction, tends to invite a gravity takeover. He already was sliding and rolling left, so the resulting stall was asymmetric.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

It looked to me like the wingman was sloppy in his formation flying. He got "sucked" in the turn, then steepened and closed too fast on lead, trying to duck under to avoid collision, perhaps with "boards out" and throttles snatched back, placing him slow and dirty in lead's right wingtip vortice, whereupon he slid left through the lead's jet blast, flaming out one or both engines. Low, slow, and dirty, high AoA and sudden thrust reduction, tends to invite a gravity takeover. He already was sliding and rolling left, so the resulting stall was asymmetric.

I buy some of this, I doubt both engines would flame out though. If he did not have structural failure, it's apparent he over banked and spun in. Even if he got into the lead's wake turbulence, it should have not tossed him around to an extent where he couldn't control the aircraft (Su25 T/O weight should be about 40,000 pounds so we're not talking small aircraft here).

There does seem to be something coming off the left wing. The Su25 does have speedbrakes at the wing tip IIRC. I'm wondering if that's the point of failure

The only other thing to took at is if he shelled an engine (compressor or turbine blew) and that resulted in taking out flight controls. I know these aircraft have a lot of armor around the engines to prevent this, but you can always have that one piece of engine shrapnel that got lucky.

 

[RogerdeLluria]

More on the Russian morale in Kherson (and hypotetical surrender)

Surrender Fever Sweeps Through Putin’s Troops After Russian Collapse in North

Ukrainian army says Russian units are pleading for peace in Kherson region after seeing their colleagues flee the battleground in northern Ukraine.

www.thedailybeast.com

Putin reeling as marines mutiny and troops prepare Kherson surrender

VLADIMIR PUTIN is facing a mutiny among his elite troops on the Kherson front after they sustained massive losses.

www.express.co.uk

 

[wlewisiii]

2022 - where you have a QR code to quit:

 

[RogerdeLluria]

According to the British MOD the Russian 1st Guards Tank Army, the most prestigious Unit in Russia has been severely degraded.

The 1st Guards Tank Army, of the Western Military District, will require "years" to rebuild its capability as the main unit designed to defend Moscow and lead counter-attacks in the case of war with Nato, Britain's Ministry of Defence said on Tuesday.

In its daily intelligence briefing, the MoD said: "Elements of the Russian forces withdrawn from Kharkiv Oblast over the last week were from the 1st Guards Tank Army (1 GTA), which are subordinate to the Western Military District (WEMD).

"1 GTA suffered heavy casualties in the initial phase of the invasion and had not been fully reconstituted prior to the Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kharkiv."

If units such as this have been so badly handled, I doubt that Putin can do much. Any replacements will not be close to as well trained and equipped, while the Ukraine will be substantially strengthened as they further integrate their modern western equipment

His only chance is to defend for the next six months and try to rebuild his units.

Wikipedia editors are already upgrading 1 GTA entry

 

[RogerdeLluria]

European gas prices likely to fall sharply this winter, says Goldman Sachs

EU countries’ efforts to avoid big shortages likely to ‘successfully solve’ Russian cuts, says bank

www.theguardian.com

Meanwhile in Russia

Russia's Budget Surplus Shrinks as Revenues Slide

Russia’s budget surplus shrank sharply in August, as revenues wilted under the pressure of lower energy production and sanctions.

financialpost.com

 

[vikingBerserker]

Nice, seems like the Orcs just bitch slapped themselves.

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

I buy some of this, I doubt both engines would flame out though. If he did not have structural failure, it's apparent he over banked and spun in. Even if he got into the lead's wake turbulence, it should have not tossed him around to an extent where he couldn't control the aircraft (Su25 T/O weight should be about 40,000 pounds so we're not talking small aircraft here).

There does seem to be something coming off the left wing. The Su25 does have speedbrakes at the wing tip IIRC. I'm wondering if that's the point of failure

The only other thing to took at is if he shelled an engine (compressor or turbine blew) and that resulted in taking out flight controls. I know these aircraft have a lot of armor around the engines to prevent this, but you can always have that one piece of engine shrapnel that got lucky.

Maybe some loose nose armour altering the CoG Kobra-like?