buffnut453
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Ukraine war: UN nuclear watchdog to inspect Ukrainian sites
The visit comes after Russian accusations that Kyiv is planning to use so-called dirty bombs.
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I'm not convinced that the West would do anything beyond further sanctions and lethal aid if Russia set off a dirty bomb. I honestly don't think there is anything Russia can do within Ukraine that would provoke NATO to attack Russia. NATO is defensive, a full on nuclear strike to flatten Kyiv will not get the consensus to attack. Russia could launch a new Holodomor with Einsatzgruppen and gas chambers et al, publicly murdering Ukrainian women and children by the hundreds of thousands, stacking the bodies like sandbags in front of CNN and BBC cameras, and still NATO won't do more than increase arms support to Ukraine. This is Ukraine's war to win or loose, though maybe by that point Germany will finally release Leopard 2s.
I suppose those Russian dumbasses haven't considered that a "dirty nuke" would create a fallout cloud that'll eventually drift eastward into Russia proper.
Adding to that, Ukraine forces aren't in control of the facility - so a claim that Ukraine caused the explosion would be seen as total bullshit.
I doubt that would happen though. Poland was afraid to give over some MiG-29s without everyone's backing, and Germany is still mollycoddling about Leo2 tanks. These are not the sort of nations that would unilaterally attack Russia.It should be noted that no NATO country is required to receive NATO approval for any retaliatory measures. They could choose to forgo NATO approval and go it alone.
I doubt that would happen though. Poland was afraid to give over some MiG-29s without everyone's backing, and Germany is still mollycoddling about Leo2 tanks. These are not the sort of nations that would unilaterally attack Russia.
I liked the HIMARS bit. Nice touch.Putin doesn't care. The Russian model is that the people only exist to enable the State. If the State needs to prove its case by setting of a nuclear explosion, then any resultant casualties are simply supporting the State in its actions, and hence are true and noble citizens.
Moscow will simply claim that the explosion resulted from Ukrainian artillery fire (just as they've done for every single Russian weapon that hit a civilian target). I suspect HIMARS would be identified as the system that fired on the facility, hence the US can be brought into the blame game.
That was still early in the war. We were all a little too cautious then.I doubt that would happen though. Poland was afraid to give over some MiG-29s without everyone's backing, and Germany is still mollycoddling about Leo2 tanks. These are not the sort of nations that would unilaterally attack Russia.
I suppose those Russian dumbasses haven't considered that a "dirty nuke" would create a fallout cloud that'll eventually drift eastward into Russia proper.
I doubt that would happen though. Poland was afraid to give over some MiG-29s without everyone's backing, and Germany is still mollycoddling about Leo2 tanks. These are not the sort of nations that would unilaterally attack Russia.
One of the links of the past two days had a side bar which said the 2nd brigade of 101st Airborne had been moved to the Romanian border with Ukraine. I have not seen comment by forum members or news media. non sense or fake news?