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Its an observation and a question more than an opinion, but *perhaps* an unwillingness by certain populations to engage, discuss and consider the detail of the global implications of policy formed by these policy makers, lies at the very core of why certain individuals have ended up being given such power in the first place?

Personally I feel that not discussing the power-brokers policy means it becomes impossible to have an intelligent conversation about the subject when, as you point out, US policy will be the ultimate decider of the fate of Ukraine. Its indivisible. As is its global impact.

What we all know is really meant, given expressing views and opinions about anyone else doesn't seem to result in 'out of control conversations', is not expressing an opinion on Trump and his administration. It'll be interesting to see what passes that test for 'discussion' here, post 20th of January!

Your forum, your rules, by which I will abide! (But perhaps not as a participant on this thread.)
As I mentioned, discussing policy and policy makers in relation to the conflict is a part of history and unavoidable.

But when the conversation strays into the realm of personal opinion, then it's no longer relevant and becomes fuel for argument and that's where the thread becomes jeopardized.
 

Sabotage or bad maintenance?
Both? Maybe there was an Ukrainian secret service crew on another vessel and a drone paid a visit.
 
Lets hope that idea spreads as that will further demoralise the Russians.

Personally I am surprised that Ukraine has not damaged more fuel tankers while they are in Russian ports or waters. Taking one out of service is just as good as sinking one and maybe better as then the rescued crew talk and demoralise their comrades.
 

Sabotage or bad maintenance?
I'm going with karma.
 
Lets hope that idea spreads as that will further demoralise the Russians.

Personally I am surprised that Ukraine has not damaged more fuel tankers while they are in Russian ports or waters. Taking one out of service is just as good as sinking one and maybe better as then the rescued crew talk and demoralise their comrades.
I've been thinking about that too. If we're thinking about it, the GUR has probably been working on it. Ukraine just doesn't have the reach yet, or does it?
 
Even their robots are rebelling...;)

 

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