Allison V-1710 vs. H.S. 12: another what if

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The French managed it and by a wide margin.

They not only insulted aerodynamics, they tried to bludgeon it out of existence with some of the ugliest aircraft aircraft ever built whose main styling cues seem to be from medieval castles
Is there a legal precedent for eyeball assault?
To be fair, some of those pre-date the Roc by a decade or so
 
LOL coulda fooled me
 

Very interesting info.

Leads me to question govt economic stimulus spending during tough economic times - something relevant during the time of V-1710 development as well as today...
On the one hand, there were massive public works projects (CCC, WPA, etc) to help employ people and stimulate the economy.
At the same time, military spending and research were curtailed due to the poor economy.

It seems to me that large support for aeronautical and engine research development would have provided economic stimulus and prepared the nation for the next war.
Maybe take a few of the subsidized workers building park facilities and instead put them through schooling in support of the advancement of technology.
 
Democratic administration, not a huge defense-spending bunch. In any case the very high taxes used to pay for those programs lengthened the depression.
 
U.S. unemployment still averaged about 25% during 1939. I can scarcely think of another nation with worse economic performance during the 1930s.
 
and Roosevelt had been president since 1933. every time the economy showed signs of recovery they quelled it with tax rates of up to 70+% at the top. There's a reason almost nobody taxes that high anymore, even in Europe (where nowadays the taxes aren't that much higher than America)
 
No great Britain RR could not make enough Merlins. So an automobile company in england got the prints from RR and told RR they could not make the engine quite the same way. as the auto engines they made had closer tolerances than RRmade Merlins. I think it was Rover or maybe even Ford. When it came to tolerances and replacement parts that fit the inventors of the industrial revolution failed miserably. And that goes for electrical equipment too. British radios wandered all over frequency. Pathetic.
Basically the Allison engine was a better design. But it lacked the development and the supercharger that made the Merlin a more powerful engine.
 
It was Ford of England that "productionized" the Merlin, It was done before Packard got involves.

BTW American radios were so good that Early P-47 Groups had to have their american radios replaced by British ones so they could go on operations. Lots of people had radio troubles during the war. I have had two British cars and a British motorcycle form the 60s, nobody has to tell me how bad some British electrics can be but fair is fair.
 
I'd have to say that Rolls-Royce's method of production was fine for the number of units they would have to make normally, if not adequate for the number that ended up being required in WW2.
 
Just to reinforce Wuzak's comments...
RR Derby was a skills-based factory set up to produce small numbers of engines and incorporate modifications as and when necessary. RR Crewe was a production oriented factory set up with more jigs and fixtures than Derby and longer runs of each type produced, but still pretty skilled supervisors used to keep quality up.
RR Glasgow was a production factory that made most of its own components and had a foundry, etc.; but had a high degree of automation compared with other RR facilities. Ford at Trafford Park (where the Trafford Centre retail is now) set up to make one model of Merlin using special machines to do the job. Change was difficult in this factory as new machines had to be designed... but it meant the production rate was very high. They had a hundred people in Derby to make each component compare with RR drawing and then redraw to Ford Tolerances and practices. Packard similarly set up to 'churn out' Merlins having been presented with a set of drawings of the Merlin plus some later ones from Derby with the new two-piece head so they could be first to manufacture this modification. The four levels of 'automation' allowed RR to respond to in-service needs and put more performance out in small numbers to counter a threat then ramp up numbers for a roll out and if it became a standard to produce thousands. Seems a fantastic set up to me!
 
I have had two British cars and a British motorcycle form the 60s, nobody has to tell me how bad some British electrics can be but fair is fair.

Its not for nothing that Joseph Lucas was known as the Prince of Darkness. To be fair British motor electrics of the 60s werent too bad in comparison to most equivalents built outside of Germany. I had an Alfa Romeo and it used to switch all the lights off every time you hit a bump or pothole at anything more than 30mph. Switching on the rear demister was only done if you had a fire extinguisher handy and it used to eat indicator switches for breakfast.
 
Also, Germany was preoccupied with minimizing dependence on imports and avoiding balance of payments problems. If they had to spend money on licensing US technology, the DC-3 would have been a good place to start.

There were quite a few countries that were looking for aircraft engine technology in the 1930s: Japan, Italy, Soviet Union come to mind. The Japanese army and navy actually negotiated separate licences for the DB601. I think that at one point, France was even interested in buying DB601s.
 

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