Attic find , can anyone ID this instrument panel ?

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papageno

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Hello,
While installing new roof on my parents place , this instrument panel surfaced from the pile of old stuff.
Can anyone guess what a/c it is from ?

cheerios
 

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any part numbers on the unit or brackets? or inspection stamps? Former are normally about 3/16 to 1/4 inch (4-6mm) and latter about the same or a little bigger. Any stamp containing the letters H and T in any format is a heat treat stamp and generic.

From the shape it is likely a PT or BT panel. If so one of the plates may include the aircraft serial so carefully clean all of them.
 
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At first glance it looks like a BT-17 or a Stearman's IP but it does not quite fit the images on line of that type. And as smuutny had suggested cleaning up the placards and taking good photo's of them would help in narrowing the type down.
 
Probably going to find that it's German. The long vertical slot on the left side is typical of where the mag switch would go and the guarded button above and to the left of the slot is typical German. Also, don't remember anything US that uses blue colored wire.
 

The mag switch has the lever. The slot is too long and narrow for a German mag switch, I was thinking gear or flap, but would need to see what the two placards are at the to and bottom of the slot.
 
Mag switch might be a fuel tank selector switch. The slot appears to be a gear position selector lever cutout. The switch with the red guard is grounded to the panel on the reverse side like a kill switch would be grounded. Never seen the colors of the sleeving on the wiring. Any connectors bear markings? Not sure there are placards on the panel or just the clean panel beneath where they used to be. Not seeing any edge shadows clearly giving them presence. What vintage machine had a forward fuselage profile that demanded a triangular panel?
 
The electrical switch looks totally American but I have no idea what the German switches look like so that may mean nothing at all. One possibility is Canadian which could mean the long slot is for the inclinometer or a landing gear or flap selector.

To narrow down the search if you have a vernier check the dimensions on the nuts and see if they are almost exact imferial or almost exact metric. If neither then probably BA and BDF.
 

Many BT and PT aircraft had triangular panels, including some Harvard variants though the BTs usually had less instruments.

I do agree fully on the wiring sleeving though that you and C cvairwerks mention so that may be a good clue.

The wiring coming out of the mag or fuel switch is worrying though. Not what one would expect of US or German aircraft so that raises the question of was it rewired post war?
 
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I was referring to the electrical switch next to the mag or fuel switch. Apart from the top terminal being broken and the catseye missing from the end of the lever it looks like the standard AN 3022-2 STSP switches.

papageno have a look at the side of the switch for a part number - that will identify the country of origin as a start from the part number there. Some switches also have the makers mark - Cutler-Hammer, Micro and Square D are common US switches.

 
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A couple of AN 3022- switches - the 2's shown do not have the catseye but the -1B shown does. One of the -2s and the -1A both have integral anchor nuts but the first one is the style papageno photographed.

I could not find a better photo of the catseye switches - there are several styles
 
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Could it be something Canadian? .As it has US switch gear and an AM rheostat fitted...as per attached
 

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Hi guys ,
I did not expect such an interest in this item. To help you out let me say that I am in EU on the "Sunny side of the Alps" and that the instrument panel belongs to a locally built a/c from the 50's .
Here's the panel after a light rinse this morning. None of the placards are left visible, but the mag switch and battery disconnect should be a good clue. This should get us to the final ...

cheers
 

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Ahh
That helps but what language is that on the battery disconnect switch in?
If you play with lighting and exposure then put the photos into a graphics program you may well be able to read some of the placards. Below is the result of playing with your photo of the bottom centre label in Irfanview. Not readable for me but maybe for you. One word looks like KOVAN to me
 
papageno said:
Hello,
While installing new roof on my parents place , this instrument panel surfaced from the pile of old stuff.
Can anyone guess what a/c it is from ?

cheerios
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It is the indicator panel from the light auxiliary aircraft Ikarus Kurir of the former Yugoslav Air Force or the Aeroclub where these were in usage as well.


the pic source: https://en.topwar.ru/71044-istoriya-vvs-i-pvo-yugoslavii-chast-5-vvs-yuna-1945-1960-gg.html


the pic source: https://www.airliners.net/photo/Yugoslavia-Air-Force/Ikarus-Kurir-L/700457


the pic source: Picture Aeroklub Postojna Ikarus Kurir S5-MJT
 
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