Battle Damage and Maybe Repair

[GregP]

In the Brewster Buffalo Verdict thread there is a pic of a badly-damaged Spitfire that was repaired and returned to service with the original serial number.

I thought I'd start a thread about Battle Damage with or without subsequent repair.

Here's a damaged B-17. I doubt it flew again.

Check out this He 111:

Looks like a mid-air collision.

And here's a modern one:

The "Cornfield Bomber" is the nickname given to a Convair F-106 Delta Dart, operated by the 71st Fighter-Interceptor Squadron of the United States Air Force. In 1970, during a training exercise, it made an unpiloted landing in a farmer's field in Montana, suffering only minor damage, after the pilot had ejected from the aircraft. The aircraft, recovered and repaired, was returned to service, and is currently on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force.

This one was pretty hard to see out of after the oil line was shot out!

I bet his evening meal tasted a bit like motor oil!

No real message. Just some possibly interesting pics.

Have you seen any good ones? Post 'em!

 

[SaparotRob]

"Here's a damaged B-17. I doubt it flew again." View attachment 752025

Not with that attitude.

 

[pbehn]

In the Brewster Buffalo Verdict thread there is a pic of a badly-damaged Spitfire that was repaired and returned to service with the original serial number.

I thought I'd start a thread about Battle Damage with or without subsequent repair.

Here's a damaged B-17. I doubt it flew again. View attachment 752025

Check out this He 111:
View attachment 752028
Looks like a mid-air collision.

And here's a modern one:
View attachment 752027

The "Cornfield Bomber" is the nickname given to a Convair F-106 Delta Dart, operated by the 71st Fighter-Interceptor Squadron of the United States Air Force. In 1970, during a training exercise, it made an unpiloted landing in a farmer's field in Montana, suffering only minor damage, after the pilot had ejected from the aircraft. The aircraft, recovered and repaired, was returned to service, and is currently on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force.

This one was pretty hard to see out of after the oil line was shot out!
View attachment 752030

I bet his evening meal tasted a bit like motor oil!

No real message. Just some possibly interesting pics.

Have you seen any good ones? Post 'em!

If the damage to the B-17 is the only damage the rest of it probably did fly again, married to a new rear fuselage section or more likely a section taken from another B-17. Pic below of B-17s in the factory.

17. damaged at the front?

 

[Clayton Magnet]

If the damage to the B-17 is the only damage the rest of it probably did fly again, married to a new rear fuselage section or more likely a section taken from another B-17. Pic below of B-17s in the factory.

I suspect that aircraft was stripped of any operational gear, and pushed into the surrounding field for the duration of the war. And turned into beer cans shortly after.
That would have been an enormous repair, and probably not worth the effort, considering that 10 shiny, factory fresh B-17's were waiting at the depot

 

[Snautzer01]

Wrong thread.

 

[fubar57]

View: https://youtu.be/J8QxNGZ5TqM?si=DUPy0FjGE7u-8pGh​

 

[pbehn]

View: https://youtu.be/J8QxNGZ5TqM?si=DUPy0FjGE7u-8pGh​

Clear evidence of the B-17s over engineering, no wonder crews hated it eh?

 

[GrauGeist]

How about the P-47D (44-21054) in Italy that flew through an Olive Grove during a strafing run, then proceeded to fly over 100 miles back to it's base?

 

[fubar57]

If the damage to the B-17 is the only damage the rest of it probably did fly again, married to a new rear fuselage section or more likely a section taken from another B-17. View attachment 752094

Little Miss Mischief for sure. Google the name for other images

DA WEBS​

 

[gillescollaveri]

I found a nice repair on a Bf109 crashed in the South West of France. Skin probably damaged by a bullet,

 

[gillescollaveri]

I found a nice repair on a Bf109 crashed in the South West of France. Skin probably damaged by a bullet,

and the other side. Nice craftmanship.

 

[Geoffrey Sinclair]

B-17 FORTRESS MASTER LOG By Dave Osborne

Not a lot of spare B-17 in early 1943.

41-24406 Ass 92BG Bangor 13/7/42; tran 414BS/97BG Polebrook 6/42; Maison Blanche, Alg. 13/11/42; Tafaraoui, Alg. 22/11/42; Biskra, Alg. 25/12/42; on Tunis mission was rammed by FW190 1/2/43 almost slicing rear fuselage and tailplane off; made it back to Biskra and repaired; tran 353BS/301BG {3m} St Donat 6/3/43; Oudna, Tun 6/8/43; Cerignola, It. 7/12/43; Lucera, It. 1/2/44; Sal 6/3/45. ALL AMERICAN.

42-97880 Del Tulsa 23/3/44; 88BG Hunter 18/5/44; Dow Fd 29/5/44; Ass 324BS/91BG [DF-F] Bassingbourn 15/6/44; {50+m} lost engine en route Fassberg A/fd 4/4/45 w/Edgar Moyer, on return c/l base when u/c collapsed; rep & tran 306BG 5/45. LITTLE MISS MISCHIEF.

 

[GrauGeist]

41-24406 Ass 92BG Bangor 13/7/42; tran 414BS/97BG Polebrook 6/42; Maison Blanche, Alg. 13/11/42; Tafaraoui, Alg. 22/11/42; Biskra, Alg. 25/12/42; on Tunis mission was rammed by FW190 1/2/43 almost slicing rear fuselage and tailplane off; made it back to Biskra and repaired; tran 353BS/301BG {3m} St Donat 6/3/43; Oudna, Tun 6/8/43; Cerignola, It. 7/12/43; Lucera, It. 1/2/44; Sal 6/3/45. ALL AMERICAN.

The B-17F damaged over Tunisia, was struck by a Bf109G-4/Trop (Wk.Nmr. 16093) flown by Erich Paczia of 6./JG53 - he was assumed to be mortally wounded by the B-17's defensive fire, resulting in loss of control and collision with the bomber during his head-on attack.

 

[fubar57]

Even Wiki says 109. The only mention of a 190 being the culprit on the web I could find was on the "Queen of the Skies" site citing the B-17 Fortress Master Log

 

[GrauGeist]

Even Wiki says 109. The only mention of a 190 being the culprit on the web I could find was on the "Queen of the Skies" site citing the B-17 Fortress Master Log

Yeah, not sure how the Fw190 has become associated with that event.

They were in operation during that time period, operated by JG2, however not on that day. It was JG53 with their Bf109G-4s that attacked the unescorted B-17Fs that day.

 

[GregP]

Here's one that shows some ruggedness.

and this is after a mid-air collision:

Note the hit was just behind the canopy enclosure and again at the wing tip.

I'd be nervous if I were part of this crew:

And here's a crash in-process:

At a US Navy airfield in Florida, World War II vintage SNJ trainers are lashed to the tarmac on their bellies as a hurricane comes ashore in 1962. Courtesy National Naval Aviation Museum.

 

[SaparotRob]

As to the third picture, yes. Very, very nervous.

 

[fubar57]

317 pages

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66 pages each

 

[Capt. Vick]

I am always struck by how similar our libraries are my friend.

 

[fubar57]

Great minds think alike, Jim.......and then there's us