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Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
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The people wanted a new Trafalgar, not a strategic win. A Trafalgar-like victory may have caused revolt against the Kaiser.The RN would have accomplished it's mission.
That's why you have more than one, you're supposed to expect and plan to lose some."Battlecruisers exploding to early." Maybe they shouldn't be exploding at all, but I don't claim to be a naval architect.
But can they actually hit anything at battleship ranges when utilising their vaunted speed? If not, the very concept seems flawed.Battlecruisers traded armor for speed, so they were vulnerable to hits that a battleship/dreadnaught would have shrugged off.
Not the German variety it seems. Their battlecruisers took Warspite-like damage and but for one scuttled by German destroyer torpedoes they all made it home from Jutland.Battlecruisers traded armor for speed, so they were vulnerable to hits that a battleship/dreadnaught would have shrugged off.
They could and they hit.But can they actually hit anything at battleship ranges when utilising their vaunted speed? If not, the very concept seems flawed.
The Courageous class were designed as fast, shallow draft monitors, intended to hit shore targets rather than fight other warships. They're essentially the Erebus class (shown below) with twice the guns and twice the speed, but the same mission.Glorious was never a Battlecruiser. It deserved a new designation. Overgrown tin can with oversized guns is a good name
Nor against other battlecruisers.I think it's been stated in the thread but I'll reiterate, battlecruisers were never designed nor meant to go head to head with battleships.
You weren't kidding. Great stuff!Here's a fantastic article about the evolution of the Battlecruiser and the events that revolved around it - including the IJN's Kongo.
The Battleship Kongo, Japanese Battleships
Oh boy! Lotsa' good stuff here. I have a fondness for monitors.Nor against other battlecruisers.
Once the Germans switched over from building ACRs to battlecruisers with the laying down of SMS Von der Tann in 1907 (enters service in 1910) the British should have moved their focus to the fast battleship. So, the RN's last battlecruisers should have been the Indefatigable class. Everything afterwards should be a fast battleship, essentially 25 knot capable, 13.5" armed mini-QEs.
BTW, a great resource is Haze Gray & Underway World Battleship Lists
HMS Saracen was one of my favourite books as a lad.Oh boy! Lotsa' good stuff here. I have a fondness for monitors.
HMS Saracen was one of my favourite books as a lad.
View attachment 592461[/QUOTE. Got to check that out.