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by comparison, German equipment failures were of strategic significance, and quite horrible, whether you want to measure that "horribleness on an isolated or in comparsison to the Soviets. The relief effort of Stalingrad failed because of equipment failures in German equipment, the assault on Moscow faltered in part because of the numerous breakdowns and failures of German equipment, I have already mentioned the Panther failures at kursk. The initial deployments of Tigers outside of Leningrad saw failure after failure of the tanks, and the list goes on and on. I have yet to find evidence of equipment failures of Soviet that were of strategic significance, or at least on the same scale as those I have mentioned on the German side.
Some years ago I had the honour of looking over an ex-soviet Whiskey class SS. I was struck by the high quality workmanship. Terrible design, (it was based on a German Type VII after all) but as well made as any conventional sub that I have ever seen. Doesnt prove anything other than to say that at least some Soviet manufactures were of good quality. then again, I had a friend who had the misfortune of owning one of those lada Nevas, terrible design AND a terrible construction as well. So on my own observation I would have to say that at bes Soviet equipment was patchy. But thats a ling way from saying all Soviet equipment was poor. And the historical records show that. Especially for the T-34.
With regard to the 35 year claim, I was thinking of the Syrian Army, which retained their T-34/85 in frontline service until after the 1973 Yom Kippur....thats about 30 years, which is not a bad service record. They retired their PzkPfw IVs after the 1967 war
T-34-85, belonged to Bosnian Serb Army, picture from 1996:
File:Serbisk T-34 85 trekkes tilbake.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Come on guys, I come from a bunch of people that can keep cars going forever. New engines in old cars, adapting newer engines to bulldozers, transmissions, rearends, whole suspensions.
I know a tank is a more complicated undertaking, but i'll bet those tanks retired in the 60s had went thru many engines and transmissions, and who knows how many suspension overhauls.
Sometimes I wonder how many people on this forum has ever got grease under their fingernails.
Plenty of spare parts available for T-34s, T-55s and Shermans. Maybe that also helps to explain why they were/are in service for so long.Tanks without spare parts become useless pretty quick. Or modified to use engines, transmissions, suspensions, tracks that parts can be gotten for.
I don't think that engine/powerpack lifespan was really the problem, IIRC Spielberger notes even the Panther's engine could sustain 1500 km before maintenance.
But I totally agree about bad vs very bad. Tanks are heavy machines, the stresses are enormous and as such something is bound to bread down frequently.
For perspective, when my wife can't take the train to work I drive her about 100km EACH WAY. Panther engine would last a week and half. Panther transmission and clutches in rush hour traffic in NY City would last ????
Is that rubber mats laid over that T34 ? In the hope of giving stand off from shaped charges maybe ?
Is that rubber mats laid over that T34 ? In the hope of giving stand off from shaped charges maybe ?