Best Tank Killer of WW2 continued

[Dac]

6 BK 7,5's? I know a varient of the Komet used 5x 50mm pointing upwards for wasting bombers, but 6 75mm? I gotta look for a pic of this!

AFAIK they wern't long barrelled 75mm, but shorter smoothbore recoiless guns, probably firing HEAT rounds into enemy tanks top armor.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yes I found that much out, no luck with pictures though.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I have not seen any pics of it either, I am searching through some of my books to see what I can find.

 

[Erich]

there were three altered Hs 129's used and a total of 3 different rounds for the 6 barrelled downward mortar. since the 'eye' of the unit could only be used at very low elevation over an enemy tank it was found that discharging all barrels at once would cause almost complete disintegration of the upper portion of the tank and the insueing explosion would also take out the Hs 129 so the plan was soon dropped in favour of keeping the Mk 103 with tungsten cored ammo

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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

So there probably are no pictures out there of it.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

How about the Düsenkanone Düka 88 (jet cannon) fitted to a Ju-88 as a tank killer. It is a 75mm cannon with 10 round magazine.

 

[Erich]

Adler yes there are actually a few pics of the downward facing mortar. Martin Peggs Hs 129 monster book is full of them............sorry no scanner

The Ju 88/7.5cm Kanon was short lived as it was too heavy, the firing of the gun was off plus throwing the twin engine off it's flying abilities during aiming and of course shooting the long rod

 

[SM79Sparviero]

I don't remember Ju-88 with a Dusenkanone, even if some of them had 1 conventional 75 mm KwK anti-tank gun, or two 37 mmg guns or ( maybe the most successful , and useful for close air support) 1 50 /60 Kwk anti-tank gun -

Ju 288 was projected to carry a 280 mm dusenkanone since 1940.
This device consisted of a retractable barrel in the nose section which was carried within the bomb bay and extended for firing position , and designed to return to the aircraft upon firing by means of its own recoil.
Heavily armored targets such a warship would have been attacked at a dive angle between 60 and 80 degrees.

 

[cheddar cheese]

280mm? Jesus christ...

 

[mosquitoman]

Just imagine if it got a lucky shot on a plane!

 

[cheddar cheese]

Thee would be no plane Just some debris

 

[mosquitoman]

It would be a great nightfighter weapon, use it as "schrage musik"

 

[cheddar cheese]

Except that the plane firing it would lose a few thousand ft altitude

 

[mosquitoman]

There's a downside to everything, a lot of down in this case

 

[cheddar cheese]

If you have it firing at the ground it would make a great tank buster. You bust the tank, and gain a few thousand feet in the process, confusing enemy fighters!

 

[Erich]

the thing would of had the same result as the Ju 88 variants with 37mm, 50 and 75mm's. they jammed and the barrel reduced speed and the flight characteristics of the a/c were impaired. the 288 would of easily been shot down by Allied escorts if not the US heavy bomber it was attacking.

Besides the Me 410 the only othere twin engine in the anti-bomber role was the Bf 110G-2 for day attacks

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

don't remember Ju-88 with a Dusenkanone,

No the Ju-88A-4 actually was fitted with the Dueka 88, 75mm jet cannon. The Dueka 280 was proposed for the Ju-288 but was not pursude by the RLM. I have a picture of a Ju-88 carrying a Dueka 88 in my book here. And here are pictures from http://www.luftarchiv.info/bordgerate/waffen2.htm

 

[Monkeysee1]

Hmmmm... maybe I did read the thread. Think before you open next time. Thanks though.

 

[Monkeysee1]

AAAHHH Damnit, Seriously page 18 top of the page Der Alder Ist Gelandt. You said, "If you think the 262 was too fast for tank busting just think of the jet aircraft today that do that stuff like the A-10. The A-10 would be comparable in speed while doing so. Also you have to remember that the 262 would not have been at full speed when attacking tanks."

So again... I guess I didn't read the thread or learn anything.
Sorry about the technical difficulties... not a computer guy just a jet driver. C-ya.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Jeezus Christ read it again. I said it would be compable in speed. I did not say it flew the same speed. If you read it agian you will see that it says that neither plane would be flying at full speed.

So C-ya!