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I am undecided. In terms of equipment and organization I say the US the Commonwealth forces where so intermixed I think its hard to pick one for example my uncle was a Wellington pilot flying with the RAF. English he was trained in Canada and had a mixed crew at one time or another of British ,Australian Canadian It was very much a joint effort .
The Luftwaffe although excellent for Blitzkrieg never had the force in depth required for an extended campaign so IMO lacked the Organizational requirements so aptly displayed by the US.
As for pure pilot ability no overall nation comes out on top, each having good and poor flyer's. The BOB was a major turning point but I believe as much credit has to go to the organization of the tactics and that 20 odd miles of water as should go to the pilots for the victory.
So overall I probably lean slightly in favour of the US
Acutually should it not be the USAAF? Not the Air Force?
1. The best performing AF of the war ?
2. The most advanced AF of the war ?
3. The best equipped AF of the war ?
4. The most successful AF in terms of the total outcome of the war ?
5. The largest AF of the war ?
I have to bud in here..
How do you define the best airforce of WWII ??:
1. The best performing AF of the war ?
2. The most advanced AF of the war ?
3. The best equipped AF of the war ?
4. The most successful AF in terms of the total outcome of the war ?
5. The largest AF of the war ?
In my opinion its very hard to define which AirForce was the best of the war as its a combination of many things. The US no doubt held the advantage in terms of numbers of aircraft available, but Germany fielded better more advanced a/c and Britain did in some areas as-well - the British, Japanese and US fielded carriers though. Other things that have to be taken into account is pilot training, service field service of a/c, AF doctrine etc etc... how else do you define the best airforce of WW2 ??
Perhaps the title should be the most powerful airforce of WW2 ??
The US incorporated all theories (pre-war and "during the war") of air warfare into a successfull doctrine. The LW was lacking in strategic vision and logistics.
For every advanced weapon the LW had, the US had others.
Want to talk bombers Soren? Tell me about the LW 4 engined bombers that were the equivelant of the Lanc/B17/B24/B32 and B29.
Long range fighters? What was the LW equivelant of the P38 and P51 (and of course the P47N) in terms of range and being able to fight with a good probability you wouldnt be shot down.
Want to talk about long range navigation? LORAN was a US invention. Did Germany have anything similar?
Aviation Fuels? The US was mass producing hi octane av gas by the tanker load long before the Germans did.
The USAAF was so well equiped from 1944 onwards, it dwarfed the other combatants.
The B29 with an atomic bomb sort of proves the USAAF was on top for your comment.
By 1944, the USAAF was the largest in the world in 1944. In 1945 it was even larger. Then figure in how many aircraft were built for the navy (of which Germany didnt have to use resources for), and the size of the combined army and navy air forces was staggering.
Soren how many of the Ju-388, Ju 390, Ju 290, and He 277s were bombing allied targets?
Sorry the Luftwaffe did not have anything to match the B-17, Lancasters and B-24s.
The bombers they did have that were just as good they did not have eneogh of.
So yes syscom is correct, the Luftwaffe did not have anything on the large bomber type aircraft that could compare.
Better in the fact they made better holes in the ground you must admit that the LW did not possess any credible Stategic or Heavy bombers I do believe even Canada fielded a larger heavy bomber componentWe weren't talking numbers Adler.
The He-177 He-277 were both superior to any Allied bomber of WW2, that there weren't enough is another matter.
The US had NO answer to the Me-262, Ar-234 Ta-152H-1 just to name a few.
Ju-388
Ju-390
Ju-290
Ever hear of Naxos Z ???
infrared equipment,
accoustic homing torpedoes,
guided misiles bombs, AA misiles, homing AT misiles, rocket science, Jet science, motion detection sensors ?? Thats right, the Germans were way ahead in all areas !
The Germans were using synthetic fuel ! (Which the Allies were eager knowing how to make btw)
Oh and besides the lower octane figure take a look at the power levels achieved by German engines, thats right they superceded any Allied engine - and thats not all, the German engines could be run for over 10min on full boost, the Allied engines for only 5min or you'd risk wrecking the engine.
I don't think you understand what well equipped means - well equipped means you have a good and dependable tool for every necessary action.
No it doesn't, the Germans knew about this long before the Americans, however again Hitler didn't like the Idea and rejected it, the Americans had to ship German scientists to fully understand the theory and realize it.
Soren, their was absolutley no strategic vision in the LW. Period. End of story.
The US had the P80, P47N and P51H. (And I will let the RAF experts counter with the advanced Brit types).
What impact on the war did the Me262 have? Ta-152? Ar-234. None.
An excellent plane no doubt. In fact, potentially the best fighter plane in the last month of the war in the ETO. Now what impact on the war did it have?
Actually no. But since the LORAN was further devolped after the war, and used by almost everyone, meant it was the superior system.[]
Used by the LW?
By the way, USN and RN had their own verisons that worked quite well.
Yes, advanced.... but.... impact on the war?
Low octane synthetic fuels, that needed additional refining steps to make it hi octane to keep up with the allied mass production of high quality fuels.
And the allies didnt need synthetic fuel technology during the war did they?
Plenty of allied pilots ran their engines over the 5 minutes and flew home to tell the mechanics about it.
But then, it didnt matter because the allies were building engines by the tens of thousands and it was easier to replace an engine than repair it.
So the inferior allies flying inferior aircraft, flown by inferior pilots ended up shooting down the whole LW?
The facts are clear. The allies developed the A bomb and the Germans didnt. This thread is about the here and now, not the should have, could have.
So they didn't make a difference and doesn't even rate in this equation.The He-177 He-277 were both superior to any Allied bomber of WW2, that there weren't enough is another matter.