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Why do you call them idiots if there was no sign to keep the belt on?
The originally story totally made it seem like "another Boeing incident."
It most certainly was not. Just like the one that went off the runway, the one that lost a wheel, the one that leaked hydraulic fluid, and the one that burst a tire.
Hell it could be a cessna and the press will still somehow blame Boeing for it
Re your first point...that's why I didn't post the original article until a determination had been made on the nature of the "technical" issue.
Agree there's a rush to associate any aviation incident with Boeing. I am trying to be balanced, though.
Why do you call them idiots if there was no sign to keep the belt on?
Well, it turns out it was not just "Operator Error." The pilot's seat is moved by a motor (like on my neighbor's Porsche) , not by sliding on rails manually (like on my 1997 Toyota) . In order to move it you have to lift a cover on the back of the seat and then reach under the cover and push a switch. But a flight attendant came into the cockpit and leaned on the back of the pilot's seat. The seat movement switch should not have activated, since the cover over the switch had not been raised and as a result the seat moved forward, shoving the captain into the control yoke, overriding the autopilot as designed, and resulting in a sudden nose down pitch movement. The seat movement switch installation was defective because it should not have activated as a result someone leaning on the back of the seat and not raising the cover over the switch.
And looked cool doing it!In the years I travelled by air, I kept the belt on. The Captain used to say, "We recommend you keep your belt fastened as we do in the cockpit".
The one memorable downdraft, a relatively gentle but continuous, occurred just after I received a cup of coffee. I realised as the coffee began to rise up from the cup, a mess would be next if I didn't do something. I hit the belt release and slowly stood keeping the coffee just above the cup. Just at the moment before the coffee reached the ceiling panel, positive G returned and I resumed my seat with my coffee returned to my cup.
I love the sound of the synchronized seatbelt release when the plane stops at the gate. It's kinda' like my snooze button going off....so why take the risk by not keeping yourself strapped in until the very end?
If I can get my usual preference of window seat I don't even get out of my seat when the plane has stopped. Notwithstanding People's take, instead I wait until my row has deplaned and then I get up and walk off. The trick is to have limited or easily accessible carryon luggage so that you cause zero delay to those behind you. I always laugh at the poptart or wackamole leap to stand up and block the aisle everyone does as soon as the engine's switch off. You're not getting out any faster, so just chill and wait.Because every flight I've been on has a verbal announcement recommending that passengers keep their seatbelts fastened while seated, even though the light may be turned off.
If I can get my usual preference of window seat I don't even get out of my seat when the plane has stopped. Notwithstanding People's take, instead I wait until my row has deplaned and then I get up and walk off. The trick is to have limited or easily accessible carryon luggage so that you cause zero delay to those behind you. I always laugh at the poptart or wackamole leap to stand up and block the aisle everyone does as soon as the engine's switch off. You're not getting out any faster, so just chill and wait.
I stand up, not because I am going to get off any quicker, but because I have knees that I injured that hurt really bad after 10+ hours on a plane.Patience, at least in asardine can, er, passenger jet, is indeed a virtue.
I stand up, not because I am going to get off any quicker, but because I have knees that I injured that hurt really bad after 10+ hours on a plane.
I don't see it as a "poptart or wackamole leap to stand up and block the aisle" because I am not blocking anyone, because no one is moving. I mean seriously, whats the big deal if someone wants to stand?
I prefer a window seat, with a window you can open, even when flying, and no herd at all.I prefer a window seat.
I hear you; I have an incurable bone disease in my hip and stand ASAP after a long flight. What irks me is not the standing, it's the taking ten minutes to get one carry-on out of the overhead, blocking the aisle.
Yeah, I get that.
It does not help though that the airlines use the most inefficient way to load and unload planes.
As I understand it, one advantage that Charleston has over Seattle is that the layout there - and the union - allows subcontractors to enter the production line "sideways" and install the hardware they built into the airframes rather than simply supplying it to be installed by the regular production workers. This of course reduces the number of production line workers required, and in Seattle, at least, means that non-union contractors are replacing strongly unionized ones.deliberate sabotage to subassemblies shipped from Seattle to Charleston for final assembly there
Even if the airlines tried to do this….It does not help though that the airlines use the most inefficient way to load and unload planes.