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So Mosquitos bombing the **** out of German industry wouldn't get the Luftwaffe in the air?
And if the LW don't send the fighters, all the better for the bombers.
I think you miss the point. The USAAF daylight bombing campaign destroyed the Luftwaffe because it presented large, slow moving, well defended and well escorted formations which spent a long time over occupied territory. The luftwaffe engaged in a war of attrition it couldn't win. Even if they were escorted a formation of mosquitos moving at almost twice the speed of the B-17s would have been much more difficult to intercept and would have spent much less time in the air - that's what made the Mosquito such a great aircraft. The Luftwaffe wouldn't have had anything like the time required to launch wave after wave of attacks as they did against the formations of four -engined bombers and consequently any escorting fighters would have had less opportunity to inflict losses.
If you want to catch a lot of fish, use enticing bait and keep your line in the water.
From what I know Mosquitos cruised at 240Yes, Mosquitos had a better cruise speed than the Mustangs.
The USAAF used escorts for some (if not all) of their Mosquito missions (F-8s, which were either PR.XVIs or converted B.XXs). The RAF didn't provide escorts for their PR aircraft, at least generally.
There were some escorts for Mossies, however. The Amiens prison raid, for example, consisted of 18 FB Mossies plus one PR Mossie and an escort of Typhoons (can't recall the number).
Actually, no it doesn't.
The Luftwaffe was not destroyed by the guns of the B-17s - which really weren't that effective - but by the long range escort fighters, such as the P-51. The effect was even greater when the escort fighters were released from close escort duties and tasked with hunting and destroying the Lutwaffe. By that stage the bombers were largely bait.
The Luftwaffe didn't help their cause either, with the edict that the defending fighters were to ignore the escorts and go after the bombers.
don't believe that for 1 minuteActually, yes it was! B-17s shot down more Nazi aircraft than any other type of aircraft! B-24s were next! (At least according to Nazi records which were meticulous in that regard!)
So Mosquitos bombing the **** out of German industry wouldn't get the Luftwaffe in the air?
And if the LW don't send the fighters, all the better for the bombers.
With out the heavies, there would be no choice to be made in the Luftwaffe! Attack/defend against the heavies with 14,000 pounds up, or the Mossy with 2-4000? Right! The only reason that Mossies had such an enviable record was the Nazis made the only viable choice, ignore the flyweights fight the heavies!
There was no magic in the Mossy that made it invulnerable. It was not nearly fast enough to out run almost any single engined fighter. It was defenseless vs any fighter. It was not high enough of a flier to escape the lowly Me-109! The failure of judgment in that regard is made by ignorant or opinionated people with agendas. See the specs below of the best Mossy variant with the understanding that the actual loaded cruising speeds and ceiling are much less than these stated.
The Luftwaffe even had a unit specifically tasked with killing Mosquito bombers (IIRC at night) - but they were disbanded or retasked due to lack of success.
Actually, yes it was! B-17s shot down more Nazi aircraft than any other type of aircraft! B-24s were next! (At least according to Nazi records which were meticulous in that regard!)
I think it was JG 52, day fighters, intended to combat recce craft, again IIRC, not my area of expertise.
Jagdgeschwader 50 (JG 50), sometimes erroneously referred to as Jagdgruppe 50, was a special high-altitude fighter unit that specialized in intercepting the Royal Air Force's de Havilland Mosquito light bombers during World War II.
JG 50 were initially equipped with eight Messerschmitt Bf 109G-5s and Bf 109G-6s polished to increase speed, and equipped with a special tank for liquefied nitrous oxide as part of the GM-1 engine power boosting system, which was injected directly into the supercharger intake. This allowed the pilot to boost the rated horsepower of the DB 605 engine. Graf set a world record for high altitude flight of 46,885 ft (14,291 m) feet in one of the modified 109s. The unit was later also equipped with specially supercharged FW-190A-5.
In around four months of operations Graf was the sole pilot of JG 50 to down a Mosquito, which he caught after loitering at 30,000 feet over Groningen.
Siefried, you didn't mention the area bombing of British cities by the LW. The subsequent allied bomber offensive against the axis powers was part of the plan to defeat them.
'total war' was declared and the gloves came off.
I have said before that the casualties were appalling and a raid like Dresden is akin to a nuclear attack.
Did the end justify the means?
I would have to say 'yes' but, with reluctance.
John