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Quite a lot. A true war is not a Risiko as the real Finance is not Monopoly.....
Once an Army moves in a direction it not easy to redeploy it, expecially in extremely narrow and winding hilly lanes, with all the consequent traffic jams and with an enemy that is capable to keep an eye on you. One thing is an enemy that arrives unespected and unsuspected, another one is when arrives expected: the Germans lost the First Battle of Marne for this very reason, and fortunately there were all the Paris taxis to bring the "poilus" to the front.....
The French and British H.Q. were in 1940, IMHO, criminal in this respect, or put it as you want, they were not so lucky like in the WWI...
The situation of Ethnic Germans under the Polish government wasn't all that much better in some regions. Its worth noting that the first atrocities of the Polish-German war was by Polish soldiers entering the house of vulnerable and unarmed ethnic Germans and murdering the families there. Its worth putting that in the light of what happened in the subsequent occupation of Poland. The nazi regime may not have shown moderation and a lot of humanity, but neither was the other side without blame.
Come on man even Canada made more military trucks then Germany by 800K to 500kThat isn't quiet correct! The logistics of the Panzer- and motorized Infantry Divisions were also fully motorized!
I agree with parsifal that the grade of motorization of the german Army droped down with every year of the war, because there was not enough supply to replace the losses but from the plan of organisation of the Panzer and motorized Infantry Division they were fully motorized at all units of the Division.
But this is the whole concept of mobility to strike through unexpected. How often had the Wehrmacht the problem of very good defended stratical points at Barbarossa and how often they were searching a weak spot next to this point in the front, regroup and break through absolutely unexpected 30-60 miles away to drive in the back of the very good defended frontline.
All officers were trained for this and as Siegfried mentioned it was part of their military education.
Would I be banned if I say that plenty of neo-Nazi crap is ruining this fine forum?
Siegfried is just regurgatating old propaganda put out by the Reichs Ministry of Propaganda 60+ years ago , and exposed as lies before most of us was born.
Would I be banned if I say that plenty of neo-Nazi crap is ruining this fine forum?
I would just add that I have found the last 2 or 3 days at this site a very unpleasant shock.
and the final decision for the attack in the Ardennes was taked by Guderian and Manstein when they meet in a acampment by random. The Allied plan was to stabilize the front and cut Germany from the Swedish iron to suffocate it. The plan is said to have been very well done, even by modern analists, it's only flaw being the already mentioned overlook of the Ardennes.
You seem to not know , or ignored that the Third Reich not only murdered 6 million Jews, but also almost as many other peoples.. Many people think they simply wanted to kill anyone different from them, which is definately not truth..
You were either Germanic, a slave, or dead, where ever they ruled.
Actually, it shows Germany outproducing both the UK and the USSR
The graph (Harrison, "The economics of WW2") do not show "resources", nor those absurd claims that you are making.
.Not an exhaustive list. What about submarines? or explosives production?, just to name a few, that would show the SU way behind Germany in those categories
Anyway, what would that prove? That there was no LL for Germany, or that the Germans needed to expand their industrial capacity before expand the armament production, or that the soviets factories did not have to face an "around the clock" bombing, or that the Germans were facing shortages in many key resources?. That simplistic analysis is worthless.
But in the eastern Europe the Third Reich conquered, you were either Germanic, a slave, or dead when your turn came.
Yes, it does. The Gross domestic product is much more comprehensive way to measure actual production that to take the numbers of very very few cherry picked items. If you can't understand this simple fact there's no reason to continue this.Actually it doesnt. It shows the germans had greater GDP. My figures are what they got in terms of actual materiel produced. This very clearly shows the germans were outproduced by both Britain and the USSR. You need to re-read the material
Why are my claims "absurd". I was responding to your claim that the germans outproduced the russians and the Brits. I said that with about 70% of the german GDP the Rusians outproduced the germans by a clear margin.
I produced data that suggests the GDP of the Russians 1938-45 was about 88% that of the germans, but in certain categories the russians outproduced the germans by as much a 3.24 times. Ther is nothing silly about that. the only thing silly is that you dont know the difference between GDP and equipment deliveries
I suspect of those numbers because by June 22 1941, the Soviets only had 212 submarines... and I don't think they lost that many against the Finnish. Actual war production of submarines by the SU was 51 (june 41-may 45), this can be compared to the approx. 940 German submarines produced during the same period (I calculated the numbers for 1941 as half of the total for that year).Ah yes the gernmans outproduced the russians in naval construction for the entire war, but for the period up to June 1941, it was actually the Rusians in the lead. Up to that point they had produced something like 300 submarines about 50 destroyers. they had two battleships and two battlecruisers under construction, and about a dozen cruisers. they had several hundred coastal patrol vessels. In terms of river gunboats, the germans never came close to the Soviet production levels .
I'll get back to you on that.In terms of explosives production, I would dispute that the germans outproduced the russians, but would be interested to see what figures you are basing that claim on. ive never seen a completely exhaustive list for either belligerent but the bits and pieces I do have are suggesting the reverse to your claim.
German AT ammunition production was less than that of even Canada. The Russians laid more land mines around Kursk than the entire wartime production by the Germans.
ive got some other information at home, but I seriously doubt your claims here, which remain unsubstantiated at this point. time for you to put up, or shut up i would suggest. Produce your evidence, or stop callinmg me out with flippant comments. Dont stir me up, you wont like it.
Remember your initial claim, that german production far outstripped that of the russians.
Anyway Siegfried, the French Army and Air Force were under a profound modernization by the time Hitler invaded. So were the Poles and many other countries. It would be unlikely for Stalin conduct any attack in Europe had the mess Hitler turned the continent and consequentely Asia (vulnerable colonies to diverte Japan away from the USSR) didn't existed. So, the Nazis didn't "saved" nobody.