Dunkirk: Hitler's "Halt" Order

Why did Hitler halt his tanks at Dunkirk?

  • Hitler wanted the BEF to escape.

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Let the Luftwaffe finish the BEF.

    Votes: 7 30.4%

  • Let the Panzers rest and refit

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Save the tanks for attack south to Paris.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Defeating French Army more important.

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Total voters
    23

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Yep, thats true. But then the Germans had a nasty habit of invading countries without worrying about the niceties of declaring war. The only nation they ever declared war on before they attacked was the United States.

And then there was the small matter of invading Poland, to which Britain and France had given public gurantees. Germany decided to risk these gurantees and miscalculated. The mood had changed in Britain, and Hitlers bluff was called.

It was still Germany who was the aggressor in the lead up to the war.
 
The reasons for the halt order are diverse and complex, but the most immediate reason was the concern generated by the counterattack at Arras. This, and the knowledge that the French were readying other counterattacks in tyhe vicinity of Bethune and elsewhere on the flanks of the salient made the Germans hesitate. The initial order to halt was given by Rundstedt, but it rapidly permeated the higher echelons of the high command, who took what was a prudent step made by Rundstedt and blew it out of all proportion.

The decision to halt for three days was a miscalculation of the allied counterattack abilities, and an over-reaction. There were subsequent rationalizations given by both the German high command at the time, and in some otherwise distinguished post war narratives, but this was the reason, a bad feeling of jitters that led to a miscalculation.
 
Thought we had but this to bed a while back. As most have stated: The "Halt Order", did not originate with Adolf Hitler. Gerd von Rundstedt and Günther von Kluge suggested that the German forces around the Dunkirk pocket should cease their advance on the port and consolidate, to avoid an Allied break. Hitler sanctioned the order on 24 May with the support of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht. Walther von Brauchitsch had managed the logistics of the western Blitzkrieg offensive brilliantly. Although Hitler rewarded him with a marshal's baton, signifying promotion to the rank of field marshal, he repeatedly ignored his military advice, including a plea to reverse the order that halted the German advance short of Dunkirk and thereby allowed the trapped British Expeditionary Force (BEF) to be evacuated.

Letter written by General Franz Halder:
During the following days... it became known that Hitler's decision was mainly influenced by Goering. To the dictator the rapid movement of the Army, whose risks and prospects of success he did not understand because of his lack of military schooling, became almost sinister. He was constantly oppressed by a feeling of anxiety that a reversal loomed...

Halder's Diary 30 May
Brauchitsch is angry ... The pocket would have been closed at the coast if only our amour had not been held back. The bad weather has grounded the Luftwaffe and we must now stand and watch countless thousands of the enemy get away to England right under our noses."
 
Thought we had but this to bed a while back.......
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Has this been questioned before Mike? Sorry, wasn't aware if it was. I was reading Lord's book on Dunkirk nd got the idea for a good discussion. That said, I'm now reading Matthew Cooper's "The German Army 1933-1945" and its very interesting the relationship of Hitler to his generals.
 
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Njaco said:
So what was the reason for the "Halt" order? Whats your opinion?
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Njaco, you've left out some of the more important stuff here, you should have also included as options.
Also you should allow multiple votes, as there were several reasons that contributed to the affair.

vikingBerserker said:
I think it was a combination of his troops needing to rest/repair and Goering offering the Luftwaffe to Hitler to finish them off instead.
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Neither was a primary reason.
The Germans were not in any position to "repair" the Panzers division on the fly in Flanders in the last week of May, that would need to wait until the campaign was over.
I doubt that giving the troops "rest" was that big of a concern either.

Parsifal has posted part of the reason in his reply.


Some reasons:

1.) Panzer divisions needed to repel an another expected Allied attack

The Germans were indeed very concerned about a counterattack, Rommel himself had reported to OKH that they had been attacked by several hundred British tanks, and several divisions. In fact the British attack comprised only about 70 Matildas and a couple of battalions of infantry.
However as far as OKH was concerned there were several Allied divisions in the area, likely planning an attack.

2.) Significant AT danger to the Panzers

OKH had also been made very aware that their 37mm AT guns, (also used on the PzIII) were almost useless against the British Matilda tank, and they had no effective anti-armour tank guns either. In fact most of their Panzers were the Pz I or II, armed only with 20mm gun or MG's.
On the other hand, the British infantry 2 pdr AT gun (also used on the Matilda) was very effective against all the German tanks.
The Germans were able to repel the British attack with static 88mm guns, but if they were advancing on the attack it would be difficult to use.

3.) Poor terrain for attack.

The area around Dunkirk is flanked by several major minor canals. While the lead elements of the Panzer corps wasn't that far from Dunkirk, they wouldn't have all of the bridging equipment on hand. Even if they could have gotten across, they would also be concerned with getting trapped on the wrong side of the canal, with the main force of the BEF on their flank.

4.) Shortage of Panzergrenadiers.

German Panzer divisions in 1940 contained less Panzergrenadiers, it wasn't until 1941 that they were reorganized with two PzG regiments per division. In the drive towards Dunkirk they were streched very thin, as they needed to hold the perimeter to the NW (facing the BEF) as well as to the SE (facing the rest of the French army). For a drive towards Dunkirk to be successful they would need to have enough boots on the ground to push across the canal, and then hold the port against counterattack. (unlikely)

5.) Lack of information about Allied forces deployment.

The British had a huge stroke of luck early in the battle, when the 3rd division (Monty's) captured an almost complete German OOB, it gave them a very good idea of what they were facing, and where. On the other hand, the Germans didn't have a good idea of Allied deployment, partly due to the exaggerated reports from Arras.

Its easy for us to analyze the battle with 20/20 hindsight, but at the time the Germans really had a poor idea of exactly what they were facing.
 
Thanks Free for the additions. Will change in the morning. And I left it as a singular vote to spur discussion.
 

Lord's account is a bit thin on Allied positions, there were both Allied forces on the canal line ( BEF French 16th) and British forces that were sent in to hold the channel ports.

This is the map from Historyofwar.org, for 25 May.
Operation Dynamo, the evacuation from Dunkirk, 27 May-4 June 1940
The original map doesn't show the canals, so i've drawn them in.
And while "The bulk of the BEF" was indeed near Lille, there were in fact two divisions facing SW on the canal line between Bethune and Dunkirk, and another in reserve near Dunkirk.

As you can see, there was a gap between the French 16th and the BEF, but had the Germans moved up to the canal, the BEF would have certainly moved up to block the way.

 
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Njaco, no criticism intended at all, Perhaps it was not directly covered but in passing when there was quite a thread on the German invasion of France followed by the fall of France. Been several months.
I've always considered this a open and closed issue. Hitler was a moron
 
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He certasinly over-reacted in this issue, especially when he was the very one advocating bold and radical action before the campaign. But he was not the only one who screwed the pooch on this occasion. The whole wehrmacht command structure seemed to get the jitters at the slightest challenge to their supremacy. As FB points out, Arras was a pretty low scale, scratch built affair, yet for the germans they believed they were being attacked by hundreds of tanks. And they had some intell on the allied preparations, which suggested several more divs making ready for an attack or attacks. Mind you, even with the halt order in place ther was still some progress, and some armoured support continued to be provided. But the Germans lost an opportunity of some sort nevertheless
 
parsifal, I just read a very interesting passage in that Cooper book about the OKH and OKW which I'll try to post on Sunday. It changed my whole concept as to when the Germans lost the war and, with this new info (for me) I would say Nov. 39. There was a much dissention among Hitler and his generals.
 
I'll look at that with interest....November '39....thats an odd date....I cannot think of any momentous event or decision that put the writing on the wall that early.

I will say this however, hitlers war from the very beginning was an affair conducted in near desperation driven in part by the parlous state of her economy. At some point the war changed however, from a war for profit, to balance the german ledger sheets, to a war of national survival, wheree the ledger ceased to be important. If Germany had somehow survived by making peace after 1943, for example, she would have been an even worse basket case than Britain IMO.

Even though it was a war motivated in part by economic desperation, it was still a win-able war for Germany. Germany retained good chances for victory until December 1941, and good chances for a negotiated settlement until possibly the middle of 1943. Thereafter it was just a matter of time.....
 
I'll post a passage I found that if you think long term into its implications I would say was the point the war was lost for Germany. Gotta get some time to do it. At work now.....
 
Ok, here we go.......

"The German Army 1933-1945" by Matthew Cooper pages 184-190 (parenthesis are mine)

".....The climax of the Bendlerstrasse's official opposition to Hitler came on 5 November (1939), the day set for deciding to unleash the offensive on the 12th (against the West). Von Brauchitsch held a fatal meeting with the Fuhrer, which von Manstein believed caused 'an irreparable breach between Hitler and the generals. The Army Commander began by reading out a memorandum summarising all his reasons against the venture in the west. Many cogent, thoroughly sensible arguments were advanced, all incontrovertable, but they included one that served to undermine completely the worth of the others. Von Brauchitsch made the mistake of criticising the performance of the infantry during the Polish campaign, accusing it of being over-cautious and insufficently aggressive. Moreover, he went on, discipline had become exceedingly lax. Whatever the truth or otherwise, of these assertions, they proved fatal to the Army Commander. Keitel, who was present, recorded: "After the Commander-in-Chief had finished speaking, the Fuhrer jumped up in a rage and shouted that it was quite incomprehensible to him that jst because of a little lack of discipline a Commander-in-Chief should condemn his own Army and run it down....he left the room, slamming the door behind him, leaving all of us just standing there.....It was plain to me that this signaled the break with von Brauchitsch and that what little confidence there had been between them was finally over."

.....Disregarding all von Brauchitsch's factual arguments, Hitler took umbrage at the criticism he had presumed to direct against his - Hitler's own - achievements [the creation of the new Wehrmacht].....It was the end of the official opposition....The confrontation with von Brauchitsch on 5 November marked the final, irreconciable breach between Hitler and his Army Leaders....The climax of this campaign came on 23 November, when Hitler addressed senior officers of the Wehrmacht in the imposing surroundings of the Reich Chancellery. His determination to attack was reaffirmed: "My decision is of Belgium and Holland unchangable....Breach of the neutrality is meaningless...I consider it is possible to end the war only by means of an attack." For the rest, as von Manstein put it, "his speech constituted a massive attack not only on OKH but on the generals of the Army as a whole, whom he accused of constantly obstructing his boldness and enterprise." In one part of his speech, the Fuhrer referred back to von Brauchitsch's blunder of 5 November: "If the leadership in national life always had the courage expected of the infantryman, there would be no setbacks. When supreme commanders, as in 1914, already begin to have nervous breakdowns, what can one ask of the simple rifleman?...With the German soldier I can do everything if he is well led."

Parsifal, the book then goes onto events where the OKH is gradually left out of everything. If you look for a flashpoint for the end, I would say this is close.
 
I would argue that there were a number of "defining moments" that served to undermine the independance of the General Staff. The first was undoubtedly the new oath of alleginace that every membe of the armed forces were made to say. This oath was not to the state, or the german people, but to Hitler personally. Most men in the german army were honourable men, and this oath became a major obstruction to independant thought. The second major event was the destruction of Blomberg and Fritsch, who together had been largely responsible for the reconstitution of the army, With their destruction saw the elevation of Hitler to the head of the armed forces. Lastly came the destruction of Von Brauxhitsch, which made Hitlers control over ther army absolute.

I dont agree, however that Hiotler was a moron, or that he was responsible for the defeat of the german army. I believe that his temper tantrums have been overplayed, and overblown, to cover many personal and organisational failures within the German armed forces. There are many examples of Generals defying Hitler or giving Hitler bad news, and for a time surviving and thriving. Good examples of that independance can be found in Rommel, in Manstein in 1943 and many others. Those generals that didnt have answers to the problems they faced, found it all too easy to just blame Hitlers stupidity.....when in reality their own failings were at least as much to blame

One also needs to be aware that OKH, and its air and naval equivalents were inherently conservation and restrained organizations. The German naval high command, with the exception of Doenitz was more efficient than inspired, as their behaviour in many actions demonstrated.

In the lead up to the invasion of France the OKH basic plan was a revisited Schlieffen plan, which is exactly what the Allies were expecting. A right hook, or unfolding fan through the low countries would in all probability have been defeated. Thanks to Hitler and Manstein, this sort of crotchety uninspired thinking was tossed out the window, and replaced with a radical new plan....a left hook at the hinge of the expected advance into Belgium by the allies, at a point deemed relatively safe because of the terrain. This plan would never have come to anything if not for Hitlers intervention.....the best OKH could agree to was to allocate a mere Panzer Corps when a Panzer Army was needed, and as we know they were overruled. And then there were operations like the airborne assault into Holland and onto the Belgian strategic fort at Eban Emal, again a basic concept brought to fruition through Hitlers support.

Hitler, so long as he didnt get involved in the detailed planning was an asset whilst things relied on surprise and dash for success. But Hitler tended to fall to pieces when faced with a meatgrinder that required quick, but cool thinking, such as what faced his army in late May 1940. A few precautions were needed, and a more cautious advance, but Hitler panicked, called a full halt, and made the British escape even more certain.....
 
You should get this book, parsifal. The comment about Hitler falling to pieces happened even earlier when the Narvik situation occurred. the author really gets into what was happening in Berlin while Dietl was hammering it out with the Brits. But this separation with his generals I believe bears on the subject of this thread as it wasn't so much his generals asking for reprive but rather some reason that Hitler decided on to halt.
 
parsifal said:
I will say this however, hitlers war from the very beginning was an affair conducted in near desperation driven in part by the parlous state of her economy
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Even though it was a war motivated in part by economic desperation, it was still a win-able war for Germany. Germany retained good chances for victory until December 1941,
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Good points, and I agree on both



An interesting point about using Hitler as a scapegoat of sorts when things went poorly, I think there is some truth to that.




I believe that "a cautious advance" was exactly what occurred. "A lost oppertunity"? Perhaps. But given the totality of the situation, and what they knew at the time, it was a prudent move, and Rundstedt was certainly well justified to call a temporary halt, to have tried to attack towards Dunkirk would have been reckless foolhard in the extreme.

There are a few more points that I might add to the ones I made above.

6.) OKH doesn't know about "Dynamo" nor about RN capabilities.

At this point (May 24) Rundstedt OKH don't know that the BEF is planning to evacuate, nor would he know what the RN could possibly do. How many troops could be saved? 5,000 per day perhaps? 30,000 or 40,000 of the 400,000? Hardly a big concern.
His main concern would be to defend against a major allied push to cut the German Panzerarmy in two.
And in any event, the superior German LW could prevent any evacuation right?

7.) Simply too few troops to guard 3 fronts - with more Allied forces arriving.
I think we are also forgetting that the Germans were not expecting an Allied evacuation, because the British were pushing troops IN to France, and open a third front. Between May 21 - 24 there were about two British brigades sent in by ship, one to Boulogne and one to Calais. So not only was Rundstedt concerned about the forces facing him to the NE (in the pocket) and the SW (the rest of the French army) there were also British troops building up in the channel ports.

Unfortunately Lord gives the impression that the German Panzercorps were doing nothing from May 24 - 27, which is certainly not the case at all.
The Germans did in fact conduct operations, from may 22 - 24 against Boulogne, and May 23 - 26 against Calais. It was certainly the best course of action, to eliminate Boulogne Calais before moving against Dunkirk.
Battle of Boulogne
Siege of Calais

Consider the map position on the 24th (when the halt order was made).
The Germans have 11 divisions, - 7 Panzer divisions, (from Kliest's army Hoth's panzercorps), plus 4 motorized divisions, the 2nd, 13th 29th, + the Totenkopf, which has taken some significant casualties.
Two Panzer divisions are attacking Boulogne Calais (2nd 10th). That would leave about 4 divisions facing both the BEF French 1st army, with perhaps 3 divisions facing the French across the Somme, and 2 divisions in reserve.
(The 3rd 4th Panzer from the XVI corps would swing around from Army group B, but are not yet in place on the 24th)
The 24 hr. "halt" order allowed the German infantry to continue catching up with the Panzers, they moved into the Somme river positions, freeing up the Panzers to swing north and attack the BEF.

The 24th of may was an extremely dangerous situation from the OKH point of view unless they knew in advance that the French weren't able to mount a counter attack.

Given the fact that the Germans had already won a massive strategic victory, why risk their situation with a reckless attack by the Panzers? And given the totality of the situation, the halt order was the correct thing to do at the time.

 
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