Fastest Piston Engined Aircraft of WW2?
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GregP
Major
Maybe this is the guy who proposed a "thrust column" some 10 - 15 years back and has come back to troll?
Remember we had a good time with the guy who misspelled Germans as "Gremans," and we invented a war with Gremany? We were just having fun, but he never came back. Maybe this is him coming back?
Just thinking in print here. Nothing really against McCandy except for his lack of knowledge of jets and pistons. Maybe he'll learn.
Stranger things have happened. The Italians elected a stripper to Parliament once. She failed to strip in Parliament even once. I don't think they ever tried that again, so far, anyway. But, hey, it was worth at least ONE shot at it!
Remember we had a good time with the guy who misspelled Germans as "Gremans," and we invented a war with Gremany? We were just having fun, but he never came back. Maybe this is him coming back?
Just thinking in print here. Nothing really against McCandy except for his lack of knowledge of jets and pistons. Maybe he'll learn.
Stranger things have happened. The Italians elected a stripper to Parliament once. She failed to strip in Parliament even once. I don't think they ever tried that again, so far, anyway. But, hey, it was worth at least ONE shot at it!
Reluctant Poster
Tech Sergeant
- 1,630
- Dec 6, 2006
"Thrust Column" sounds like a term in a racy woman's novel
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I look at the positives, look at how much info came out in the P39 thread, or the thread about giving the Spitfire more internal fuel and using it as an escort from 1942 and now this thread, there's lots of benefits when a poster pushes an agender, the more knowledgeable posters roll out the facts to dispute their claims, except the Spit thread, your all wrong, it should have got more fuel haha, I'll see myself out.
Interesting, wasn't aware of this. The Russians did the same thing with a Tu-4, they called it the Boorlaki (strong man, the local village heavy lifter was known as a boorlaki) programme, towing a MiG-15 behind the bomber. The problem was the comfort of the fighter pilot on long flights, particularly regarding heating and ablutions. The MiG pilots they tried the experiment with got so cold they were not able to function properly after sitting motionless for hours on end.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The USAF tried several experiments with parasite fighter concepts:
"Tip Tow"
"FICON"
"Tom Tom"
They even tried fitting an XP-85 fighter in the bomb bay of the B-36 (reminds me of the USS Akron and it's Sparrowhawks).
None of the projects were successful and one of the Tom-Tom experiments was fatal.
"Tip Tow"
"FICON"
"Tom Tom"
They even tried fitting an XP-85 fighter in the bomb bay of the B-36 (reminds me of the USS Akron and it's Sparrowhawks).
None of the projects were successful and one of the Tom-Tom experiments was fatal.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I made the same point in the Thread That Shall Not Be Named®. The refutation of many bonkers points there taught me a lot about looking into not just the Groundhog, but fighters in general.
We don't always agree, Pat, but this is one point you're dead-on right.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That Which Must Not Be Named is a great thread. I learned more from its constant hammering home the same aeronautical facts than from any other source.
I'm a slow learner.
I'm a slow learner.
GregP
Major
My guess not much -GregP ?
A reno "Merlin" starts with a Merlin block, generally using Allison G-series rods, a custom crankshaft or an actual Merlin crankshaft (the weak spot in Merlins are the rods, not the crankshafts), an aftermarket fuel system, usually injection, and aftermarket pistons. Some use stock valves and some use aftermarket valves. Many have an aftermarket middle main cap, and I'd be surprised if the top guys are flying stock supercharger impellers.
But, the valve covers usually say "Rolls Royce" and, if I had one, they valve covers would say "Rolls Royce." too!
They usually get heat-soaked about lap 6 or so, and are generally MAP-backed-off every two laps or so to finish at somewhere around 120" at the end of lap 8.
Whatever. They sound magic. I wish Strega and Voodoo were still flitting about the pylons at speed every year. I miss Rare Bear, too.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I can't see tossing a valve cover that has Rolls-Royce on it. That's class!
Well the Merlin is fragile you know.
drgondog
Major
As an 8 year old, I was able to fit well and be comfortable in the MiG 15 that came to Eglin. That is also the first time I met Yeager and Hoover.I can't image a non-Hobbit riding in that unheated seat for 6-10 hours. The good nws is that for a TU-4 mission profile, the MiG pilot would have to punch out for lack of fuel, before returning home.
Peter Gunn
Master Sergeant
Well, considering the Dodge Hemi of old was a 426 I'd say that seems to confirm my thoughts about your research.
427's were Chevy Big Blocks and Ford Side Oilers, wasn't aware of any Chrysler 427's, stock, race or otherwise.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Well, there was a 427 Hemi - but it was a Mickey Thompson custom-built Ford engine...
soulezoo
Senior Airman
That "Rolls Royce" lettering on the cover added an additional 38.5 hp to the engine.
Purposely put on to ensure a hp advantage over an identical Packard made Merlin.
And now we have definitively solved the issue of Packard vs Rolls and what was better.
wuzak
Captain
There was the Ford 429 Hemi and 427 SOHC.
Reluctant Poster
Tech Sergeant
- 1,630
- Dec 6, 2006
My understanding is they typically use late production Rolls Royce Blocks the so-called Transport blocks so the Roll Royce valve cover is legit.A reno "Merlin" starts with a Merlin block, generally using Allison G-series rods, a custom crankshaft or an actual Merlin crankshaft (the weak spot in Merlins are the rods, not the crankshafts), an aftermarket fuel system, usually injection, and aftermarket pistons. Some use stock valves and some use aftermarket valves. Many have an aftermarket middle main cap, and I'd be surprised if the top guys are flying stock supercharger impellers.
But, the valve covers usually say "Rolls Royce" and, if I had one, they valve covers would say "Rolls Royce." too!
They usually get heat-soaked about lap 6 or so, and are generally MAP-backed-off every two laps or so to finish at somewhere around 120" at the end of lap 8.
Whatever. They sound magic. I wish Strega and Voodoo were still flitting about the pylons at speed every year. I miss Rare Bear, too.
