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An error often made in comparisons. Another common error is comparing performance at gross weight, e.g., in comparing a Mustang to a Bf 109, the Mustang would be carrying 269 gallons of gas compared to the Bf 109 carrying 105 gallons, skewing actual performance capability. For the model comparisons I used, I picked the models operational at the start of the Korean War, 1950. This was the time when late WWII types and early jet's metal was was going to be tested in the crucible of war.2. Once again you fail to say which versions of which aircraft you are comparing to.
Today we can't build an airplane unless it's a DO EVERYTHING machine!Today, we can't even build an airplane in 12 years!
....does everything AND has every shiny new piece of bleading edge technology.Today we can't build an airplane unless it's a DO EVERYTHING machine!
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Where did you get this from?You keep posting the F-84 was designed as a interceptor, and was a failure as a interceptor.
It was designed to a late 1944 General Operational Requirement for a day FIGHTER capable of 600 mph, and a 700 mile range.
I was just using the only available data I had for the F-84G2. Once again you fail to say which versions of which aircraft you are comparing to. Climb-performance of the F-84 varied considerably between the B-C- early D models (around 4100fpm for initial climb) to the late D-E (6000-7050fpm) to the G (initial climb unknown but time to 35,000ft 9.4 minutes).
I was just trying to list anything that was built in the same time periodSupermarine Attacker is a real stretch, 3rd prototype doesn't even fly until Jan 1950. Pretty poor interceptor in 1948-49-50 if it is not in squadron service.
I was just looking at when it first flewHawker SeaHawk, doesn't enter squadron service until 1953.
But the F-80, F-84, and F-86 could all do that...I would also note that the first duty of an escort fighter is to actually show-up where the bombers are.
But the F-80, F-84, and F-86 could all do that...
They could all make it to the rendezvous point... they might not be able to stay all the way, but they could make the rendezvousReally?????
I'd have almost sworn it was joebaugher and wikipedia, but it's not there... weird.Zipper730, where did you get that the F-84 was designed as a interceptor??
OkI get that it was designed for other requirements in "Kartveli, innovator in aviation" also Wiki, and off line in Janes, 1951.
I'd have almost sworn it was joebaugher and wikipedia, but it's not there... weird.
Well, Wikipedia generally is: Joebaugher seems more reliable. As for the interceptor claim, I either misremembered, or a disruption in the space-time continuum occurred J/K, whereby somebody retroactively edited a few online articles J/K.Zipper, the most unreliable source possible is what you thought you read on wiki, please just check it is there before posting.
I doubt it, the P-47 variant was underpowered as hell...The F-84 may have started as an interceptor, without original project notes it is hard to say, but this would have been the converted P-47 version.