German Test Pilot Evaluation of an F4U-1A (2 Viewers)

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Saw a Youtube video that probably is a lot more believable than most of those covering WW2 aviation. The Germans captured a RN F4U-1A intact that made an emergency landing in Norway. It was shipped to Germany and one of their top test pilots, Hans-Wener Lerche, evaluated it and in the end concluded it was the most impressive foreign aircraft he had flown. His conclusions were:

1. The F4U was not built for tight turning combat like the FW-190 and BF-109 and its low speed characteristics were poor..
2. The F4U was vastly superior to Luftwaffe fighters in vertical maneuvers, being capable of both diving faster and climbing much faster.
3. If the F4U was flown using vertical maneuvers by a competent pilot it would handily beat German fighters.
4. If the F4U arrived over the ETO in large numbers the Luftwaffe was SOL.
5. The sturdy structure and six .50 cal armament of the F4U would make it a much better gun platform than the FW-190, which suffered from relatively poor accuracy due to the effects of the two MG and four 20MM on the structure.

His tactical recommendations were for Luftwaffe fighters to avoid combat with the F4U and if unable to run away try to trick it into a low speed turning engagement.

Lerche's superiors were not at all happy with his report, stating that the F4U was unlikely to appear in numbers in Europe and, in essence, he had no business terrifying Luftwaffe pilots with his evaluation. Nonetheless his report was widely available to Luftwaffe pilots.

One of the more interesting aspects of this report was that the Soviets were using similar vertical tactics with the P-39. I had not thought of the P-39 being an exceptionally good climber.

Lerche wrote a book, Luftwaffe Test Pilot which was published some time ago and does not seem to be widely available at present. I recall seeing that or a similar book back in the early 1980's in a bookstore at the corner of Hollywood and Vine. But instead I bought a copy of Winkle Brown's "Wings of the Luftwaffe" there.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAZKtGmsa2g
 
Video is utter BS.
Check out the comments of the video. The other videos from that channel are also bad.

(IMO, the moment the AI flag is up, the quality of the video is for the trash)
 
AI generated drivel. Becoming an epidemic on yuutoob. The first conclusion is demonstratably wrong, since turn performance is a reflection of stall speed, and the F4U's stall speed was much lower than either of the German fighters mentioned. The other claims are also suspect. Don't believe the F4U-1 was a great climber.
 
The AI advertisements are annoying too. Artificial people telling me their health issues were solved by this brand of snake oil. Or an investment professional (or any other professional) portrayed by an artificial construct selling whatever. With actual humans, there are disclaimers that they are portrayed by actors.
AI ads should make their automated actors say: "I'm not a human but I play one on TV."
 
The AI advertisements are annoying too. Artificial people telling me their health issues were solved by this brand of snake oil. Or an investment professional (or any other professional) portrayed by an artificial construct selling whatever. With actual humans, there are disclaimers that they are portrayed by actors.
AI ads should make their automated actors say: "I'm not a human but I play one on TV."
Yep. YouTube's revenue is substantially dependent on fraud.
 
The USN Blue Angels declined to use the F4U for their aerial demonstrations, choosing the F6F and soon after the F8F instead. Dogfights aren't airshows and vice versa, but at the very least Butch Voris didn't trust the F4U for close formation work.
 
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The USN Blue Angels declined to use the F4U for their aerial demonstrations, choosing the F6F and soon after the F8F instead. Dogfights aren't airshows and vice versa, but at the very least Bitch Voris didn't trust the F4U for close formation work.
If someone named me Bitch I would have trust issues too…😉
 
Saw a Youtube video that probably is a lot more believable than most of those covering WW2 aviation. The Germans captured a RN F4U-1A intact that made an emergency landing in Norway. It was shipped to Germany and one of their top test pilots, Hans-Wener Lerche, evaluated it and in the end concluded it was the most impressive foreign aircraft he had flown. His conclusions were:

1. The F4U was not built for tight turning combat like the FW-190 and BF-109 and its low speed characteristics were poor..
2. The F4U was vastly superior to Luftwaffe fighters in vertical maneuvers, being capable of both diving faster and climbing much faster.
3. If the F4U was flown using vertical maneuvers by a competent pilot it would handily beat German fighters.
4. If the F4U arrived over the ETO in large numbers the Luftwaffe was SOL.
5. The sturdy structure and six .50 cal armament of the F4U would make it a much better gun platform than the FW-190, which suffered from relatively poor accuracy due to the effects of the two MG and four 20MM on the structure.

His tactical recommendations were for Luftwaffe fighters to avoid combat with the F4U and if unable to run away try to trick it into a low speed turning engagement.

Lerche's superiors were not at all happy with his report, stating that the F4U was unlikely to appear in numbers in Europe and, in essence, he had no business terrifying Luftwaffe pilots with his evaluation. Nonetheless his report was widely available to Luftwaffe pilots.

One of the more interesting aspects of this report was that the Soviets were using similar vertical tactics with the P-39. I had not thought of the P-39 being an exceptionally good climber.

Lerche wrote a book, Luftwaffe Test Pilot which was published some time ago and does not seem to be widely available at present. I recall seeing that or a similar book back in the early 1980's in a bookstore at the corner of Hollywood and Vine. But instead I bought a copy of Winkle Brown's "Wings of the Luftwaffe" there.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAZKtGmsa2g

I have that book. There is absolutely no reference anywhere in it for the F4U. None. Apendix 1 of that book lists ALL the planes he flew and the F4U is not listed. The only American fighter planes he test flew were: P-39, NA-57 (Harvard), P-51B, and the P-47D. This is bunk.
 
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