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In principle correct, however from June to December bomber command lost 330 aircraft and 1,400 aircrew. Only the loss of aircrew was significant, just as the UK had ramped up fighter production, it ramped up bomber production with new types on the way and older types phased out. The LW as a bomber force was at its peak before the invasion of France. After the BoB the needs of many areas found that the Ju88 was the answer, and the He111 and Do 17 couldnt survive long after Barbarossa ground to a halt.It's a widely held myth that this might have tipped the balance and enabled a LW victory, but it would have made little difference to the outcome, to be honest. The Germans lost because of an overestimation of how well they were doing and an inability to continue because they were not able to replace their losses as fast as Fighter Command could replace theirs. German intelligence was faulty and never really gave them an accurate picture of how they were doing at destroying RAF aircraft and airfields, so they miscalculated when to begin attacking London. Sure, more RAF fighters might have been shot down, but the German heads overestimating their successes wouldn't have changed even with longer-ranged Bf 109s.
By the end of October 1940, the RAF had more fighters than they began the battle with, but the LW had not been able to recuperate their increasing losses to the same degree - they had to replace fighters, bombers, recon aircraft, long-range fighters, and dive bombers and their aircrews, whereas the Brits only had to replace fighters and their pilots. It was a battle of attrition the LW were losing at and having longer-ranged fighters wouldn't have changed that at all. British tactics also nullified the advantages the German fighters had over the British ones, largely their superior numbers and superior altitude. Stats show that Bf 109s shot down more RAF fighters than RAF fighters shot down Bf 109s, but the LW lost a larger number of aircraft all up than the British did. The Brits achieved a higher kill to loss ratio compared to the LW.
You forget "CHANCE '
Most convoys were not attacked because they were not detected and most convoys who were detected,were detected by chance .
And, I see that you are falling in the code breaking trap .
The clearest example of falling into a code breaking trap must be Admiral Yamamoto, he fell into it with a Vengeance, what an unlucky guy he was, who would have thought some P-38s would stumble across his plane in the middle of nowhere, just like that?
Pure chance as everyone knows, to me its a miracle that people were continually convinced it was chance in spite of all evidence and the laws of probability.It was all coinkidinck.
My Uncle Jimmy was in on that, the groups were vectored to very precise coordinates to create a "net" that nothing was going to get through without one of the groups knowing.Pure chance as everyone knows, to me its a miracle that people were continually convinced it was chance in spite of all evidence and the laws of probability.
They must have fallen into that old code breaking trap too? Or maybe you just described how breaking a code turns a microscopically small chance into an almost certain kill, as happened in the Atlantic with submarines and convoys.My Uncle Jimmy was in on that, the groups were vectored to very precise coordinates to create a "net" that nothing was going to get through without one of the groups knowing.
Obviously, it worked well.
Or...or someone from the future read what happened on a WWII forum, thought it sounded like a good idea and went back in time and tried it.They must have fallen into that old code breaking trap too? Or maybe you just described how breaking a code turns a microscopically small chance into an almost certain kill, as happened in the Atlantic with submarines and convoys.
Now you have posted it, it is an internet fact.Or...or someone from the future read what happened on a WWII forum, thought it sounded like a good idea and went back in time and tried it.
Nope, pure chance. That guy said so.They must have fallen into that old code breaking trap too? Or maybe you just described how breaking a code turns a microscopically small chance into an almost certain kill, as happened in the Atlantic with submarines and convoys.
I am starting to see it all clearly now. You have just as much chance of seeing a LW raid across the channel in a deck chair on Biggin Hill as you have at 25,000 ft over Dover, which is why RADAR is useless, always was always will be.Nope, pure chance. That guy said so.
Pure chance as everyone knows, to me its a miracle that people were continually convinced it was chance in spite of all evidence and the laws of probability.
I still say it's a robot.
But this is further evidence of falling into the code breakers trap, larger drop tanks were distributed by chance, obviously some would end up being fitted to a plane that stumbled across an Admiral eventually.It just so happens that larger drop-tanks were flown to Henderson right before the attack, and we all know how P-38s always stooged around Bougainville waiting for the odd admiral to show up. Nothing to see here, please keep moving along.
But this is further evidence of falling into the code breakers trap, larger drop tanks were distributed by chance, obviously some would end up being fitted to a plane that stumbled across an Admiral eventually.
Yep, my Uncle Jimmy and the other guys were all hanging around, stealing money from the Navy guys during a crap game when all of a sudden, someone said "hey, let's strap those long range tanks on our crates and go for a ride!"It just so happens that larger drop-tanks were flown to Henderson right before the attack, and we all know how P-38s always stooged around Bougainville waiting for the odd admiral to show up. Nothing to see here, please keep moving along.
Hey, I bet they had a real laugh when they got the news in the papers about who was in that plane, that would be worth a round of drinks.Yep, my Uncle Jimmy and the other guys were all hanging around, stealing money from the Navy guys during a crap game when all of a sudden, someone said "hey, let's strap those long range tanks on our crates and go for a ride!"
Everyone thought it was a good idea because you can only drink so much warm beer while depriving the Navy guys of their pocket change, before things get boring.
And so off they go, fooling around when all of a sudden, some G4Ms and A6Ms interfere with their jaunt.
Being irritated, they shoot them down because Army guys are like that.
The fact that out of the all the expanse of the Pacific, Yamammoto *just happened to be there* is irrelevant...