How about the more modern day crashes ?

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Welcome A lot of military intelligence of the we never admit a mistake variety on show there on your web page.

I am glad that there were no fatalities but if the RAF was like the RAAF then there is a possibility the coroner would have been supplied with statutory declarations that were full of blatantly obvious lies and the RAF would have commandeered and destroyed all the Police records as soon as the coroner made his findings based on those false documents to ensure that the facts remained hidden.

Sound far fetched?

Absolutely provable from public records that they could not destroy. In the case I am referring to I am one of a large group who believe the RAAF officers who swore false declarations were acting under political duress as one of them is an officer with a long history of being both accurate and honest. For him to swear to the Coroner that the claimed pilot and his aircraft was flying from B to A when all the public and military records related to the claimed pilot state he was flying from A to B, and to swear that the pilot was killed over a week before his actual death, when again both civil and military records, including the records he released to the press many months earlier, gave the correct date. Furthermore there were many press reports of this pilot publicly meeting senior government officials a week after the RAAF said he "died" and Air Force movement orders showing his arrival at another location the day after the RAAF claimed he died. This, to us, suggests that this officer was deliberately making blindingly obvious errors in order to ensure that the cover-up eventually unraveled. Add to that the official RAAF claim to the Police and Coroner that the engine and aircraft had the exact same serial number when everyone with any knowledge of the period knows this was never the case and it is obvious that a cover-up was done. Incidentally we have a record of what aircraft that engine was fitted to when it left the factory.

In a recent review of some of our groups evidence the RAAF now admit that our group had the date and direction of flight correct and accept our proof that there was no DNA used to identify the human remains but still claim everything else is kosher.
Other relevant facts are ignored, facts like:
- the manufacturer of an item used to identify the pilot stating that the particular item was manufactured ten years after the date the claimed pilot died, and
- a second item, made of sterling silver, that was used for identification theoretically surviving a fire that burned large parts of the engine and all structure aft of the engine for over two metres, with the object having no heat damage and no tarnishing after over 60 years years in the acidic soil with the steel parts still shiny instead of corroded away, and
- said silver item was found at almost the geographic centre of the minute excavation of the crash site even though most of the debris extends hundreds of metres downhill, and
- documentary evidence from world renowned experts showing engine and airframe components being first designed (and therefore first manufactured) a full year after the claimed pilots death.,
- add to that instruments and other components recovered from the site being from the wrong model aircraft, two sub-models later than claimed and a sub-model that was only just leaving the factory in the USA when the claimed pilot died, are dismissed as "a moot point as the pilot and aircraft have been positively identified", and
- that the "positive" forensic identification was only able to estimate the persons age and size, among other things, and claimed the last known dental chart for the claimed pilot was not the one the one in Air Force records.

And most of that extensive RAAF "review" closely reflects, almost plagiarizes, the evidence that we supplied. Naturally not one word in the report addresses the above facts.
 
Welcome A lot of military intelligence of the we never admit a mistake variety on show there on your web page.

I am glad that there were no fatalities but if the RAF was like the RAAF then there is a possibility the coroner would have been supplied with statutory declarations that were full of blatantly obvious lies and the RAF would have commandeered and destroyed all the Police records as soon as the coroner made his findings based on those false documents to ensure that the facts remained hidden.

Sound far fetched?

Absolutely provable from public records that they could not destroy. In the case I am referring to I am one of a large group who believe the RAAF officers who swore false declarations were acting under political duress as one of them is an officer with a long history of being both accurate and honest. For him to swear to the Coroner that the claimed pilot and his aircraft was flying from B to A when all the public and military records related to the claimed pilot state he was flying from A to B, and to swear that the pilot was killed over a week before his actual death, when again both civil and military records, including the records he released to the press many months earlier, gave the correct date. Furthermore there were many press reports of this pilot publicly meeting senior government officials a week after the RAAF said he "died" and Air Force movement orders showing his arrival at another location the day after the RAAF claimed he died. This, to us, suggests that this officer was deliberately making blindingly obvious errors in order to ensure that the cover-up eventually unraveled. Add to that the official RAAF claim to the Police and Coroner that the engine and aircraft had the exact same serial number when everyone with any knowledge of the period knows this was never the case and it is obvious that a cover-up was done. Incidentally we have a record of what aircraft that engine was fitted to when it left the factory.

In a recent review of some of our groups evidence the RAAF now admit that our group had the date and direction of flight correct and accept our proof that there was no DNA used to identify the human remains but still claim everything else is kosher.
Other relevant facts are ignored, facts like:
- the manufacturer of an item used to identify the pilot stating that the particular item was manufactured ten years after the date the claimed pilot died, and
- a second item, made of sterling silver, that was used for identification theoretically surviving a fire that burned large parts of the engine and all structure aft of the engine for over two metres, with the object having no heat damage and no tarnishing after over 60 years years in the acidic soil with the steel parts still shiny instead of corroded away, and
- said silver item was found at almost the geographic centre of the minute excavation of the crash site even though most of the debris extends hundreds of metres downhill, and
- documentary evidence from world renowned experts showing engine and airframe components being first designed (and therefore first manufactured) a full year after the claimed pilots death.,
- add to that instruments and other components recovered from the site being from the wrong model aircraft, two sub-models later than claimed and a sub-model that was only just leaving the factory in the USA when the claimed pilot died, are dismissed as "a moot point as the pilot and aircraft have been positively identified", and
- that the "positive" forensic identification was only able to estimate the persons age and size, among other things, and claimed the last known dental chart for the claimed pilot was not the one the one in Air Force records.

And most of that extensive RAAF "review" closely reflects, almost plagiarizes, the evidence that we supplied. Naturally not one word in the report addresses the above facts.
Thanks, the snag is you cannot change the 'official record' in the RAF, unless there was a lot of political pressure as in the case of the Mull Wokka tragedy, I was always informed that something or someone is to be found culpable, no 'open case' to be considered
 
There was a crash that happened on December 1st, 1974: I actually wanted to post it on December 1st, but the aircraft was Northwest 6231, and two aircraft crashed on the same day which, might have been why NW 6231 was being ferried.
 
Actually, there were three accidents that day, all 727s. Northwest 6231 was repositioning to BUF from JFK to pick up an NFL football team charter flight and lost control of the aircraft due to an iced up pitot static system.
TWA 514 was approaching IAD (Dulles), descended prematurely, and hit a mountain.
I was working for Eastern at the time at JFK as a simulator tech, and we lost a 727 that night in a non-revenue mishap about which the company was not very forthcoming. Rumors were flying, but no one was talking, though it came to light that an airframe was written off due to some sort of mishap, air or ground. No word of injuries or fatalities. Not the kind of company you want to make a career at.
 

Just as Dr. Frankenstein created a patchwork human from the parts of various cadavers, maintenance experts at Utah's Hill Air Force Base are attempting to give life to an entirely new F-35A Lightning II from the parts of two mishap-damaged aircraft, according to a statement from the 75th Air Base Wing.

To do so, the F-35 program opted to reconstruct one aircraft, dubbed "AF-211," that was damaged when its nose landing gear failed in June 2020. The aircraft's nose section will be replaced with the undamaged nose from another jet, called "AF-27,″ that suffered a severe engine fire at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, in 2014.

AF-27 currently serves as a model that lets airmen practice repairing battle damage.

Experts from the F-35 Joint Program Office, the 388th Fighter Wing, the Ogden Air Logistics Complex and Lockheed Martin are working on the project, the release said. (Frankenstein's assistant Igor, however, will noticeably be absent.)

"It takes a team to make these types of endeavors successful," Dan Santos, F-35 JPO heavy maintenance manager, said in the statement. "I am very impressed with the collaborative efforts from the various agencies across Hill AFB, working together to make this happen."

While other F-35s have been repurposed, this particular aircraft takes previous Air Force recycling efforts a step further. The jet merging effort is a first — and these processes are being documented for possible repurpose initiatives in the future.



Shades of Swoose Goose.
 
Just as Dr. Frankenstein created a patchwork human from the parts of various cadavers, maintenance experts at Utah's Hill Air Force Base are attempting to give life to an entirely new F-35A Lightning II from the parts of two mishap-damaged aircraft, according to a statement from the 75th Air Base Wing.

To do so, the F-35 program opted to reconstruct one aircraft, dubbed "AF-211," that was damaged when its nose landing gear failed in June 2020. The aircraft's nose section will be replaced with the undamaged nose from another jet, called "AF-27,″ that suffered a severe engine fire at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, in 2014.

AF-27 currently serves as a model that lets airmen practice repairing battle damage.

Experts from the F-35 Joint Program Office, the 388th Fighter Wing, the Ogden Air Logistics Complex and Lockheed Martin are working on the project, the release said. (Frankenstein's assistant Igor, however, will noticeably be absent.)

"It takes a team to make these types of endeavors successful," Dan Santos, F-35 JPO heavy maintenance manager, said in the statement. "I am very impressed with the collaborative efforts from the various agencies across Hill AFB, working together to make this happen."

While other F-35s have been repurposed, this particular aircraft takes previous Air Force recycling efforts a step further. The jet merging effort is a first — and these processes are being documented for possible repurpose initiatives in the future.



Shades of Swoose Goose.

That was common with www aircraft in multiple air forces and civilian operators. One of the more famous ones was the Douglas DC2 1/2.

This one interests me. It is illegal to rebirth a destroyed aircraft but this one is still flying in Australia. You have heard of bogus parts. To me this is a bogus aircraft.

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