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And I don't believe in god. I find it boring to discuss issues of faith. I have to repeat: it is not my fantasy, it has been written in books/documents. In particular, the story about Yaks in 1946 you can find in the book by N.Yakubovich (he is not the best Russian historian, but he deals with archive documents, at least). It is much more valuable than all the opinions of all your Russian friends.Sorry, with maybe 20 friends and acquaintances from the former Soviet VVS, I just don't believe you.
In fact they made 8673 Yak-1 and 6428 Yak-7 as well. Now you can practice in arithmetic to find out the total number of Yaks produced. But all these facts cannot in any way refute the fact of low quality of the wartime Yak-3. Have you tried to answer the question why the Yak-3 disappeared so quickly from the post-war Soviet Air Force, and only the Yak-9 with all-metal wings served for a noticeable time?In fact, they made 4,848 Yak-3s and 16,769 Yak-9s. That's maybe 21,000 Yaks of the same general variety.
Didn't see that coming!.......
It says a lot when the best fighter in Soviet service, for a good chunk of ww2, was the P-39.
You don't want to start that crap with me, guy, And I don't want to escalate beyond here since I have no dog in your hunt.In fact they made 8673 Yak-1 and 6428 Yak-7 as well. Now you can practice in arithmetic to find out the total number of Yaks produced. But all these facts cannot in any way refute the fact of low quality of the wartime Yak-3. Have you tried to answer the question why the Yak-3 disappeared so quickly from the post-war Soviet Air Force, and only the Yak-9 with all-metal wings served for a noticeable time?
In fact they made 8673 Yak-1 and 6428 Yak-7 as well. Now you can practice in arithmetic to find out the total number of Yaks produced. But all these facts cannot in any way refute the fact of low quality of the wartime Yak-3. Have you tried to answer the question why the Yak-3 disappeared so quickly from the post-war Soviet Air Force, and only the Yak-9 with all-metal wings served for a noticeable time?
How many of them changed from "aircobra" to Soviet fighters?
How many of them changed from A-20 to Soviet bombers?
Could you please get at least one example of the pilot of "aircobra" who preferred Soviet fighters?
Do you know the story of Alexander Pokryshkin, one of the most famous soviet aces? He denied consequently both Yaks and La despite of direct request from Yakovlev.
"Hurricanes" and P-40s were never considered as adequate in the USSR, the quality of radio equipment was the most significant advantage of these planes. However P-40 were successfully used in the Soviet Navy as skip-bomber.
Really?! What a surprise... And how many Soviet wartime radios do you know? Unfortunately ANY U.S. radio equipment was better than the Soviet one at that time. I guess, the situation was improved only after the copying of the B-29 accompanied with a total re-organization of aircraft and radio industry.
The quality was so miserable that some pilots said it would be better not to have it at all! I know an example when the pilot preferred MiG without radio equipment just because it was lighter. But ok, here it is: link. Use translators if necessary. Summary: a functioning Soviet radio equipment appeared at the end of 1943.
One more. But I really doubt that you read even a dozen of pilot interviews. Otherwise I cannot explain your statements. Now please tell me the names of pilots who considered the quality of Soviet radio equipment as satisfactory.
The topic is not "British pilots in the Middle East".
I'd like to see pilot names who flew P-39 but preferred Soviet fighters first.
I think you are only imagining it.
I am still waiting for proofs.Quite a few did. That would happen even if the P-39 was better. If you really had an in depth knowledge of the war as you claim to do, you would know this.
In which respect Pe-2 was better? I have personally heard from a Soviet A-20 pilot raving about that airplane and very unflattering comments about the Soviet ones. The A-20 remained in service after the war for a long time in the Soviet Navy and were replaced only by the Il-28.There were no Soviet bombers with the same capabilities as an A-20, but some which were better in many respects - Pe-2, Tu-2. I have not read the accounts of many bomber pilots, though there are some available.
You don't know facts trying to manipulate with irrelevant references. So, I estimate the probability of this event as negligible.If I do this for you, will you admit you are wrong? I am not going to hold my breath.
But he was a regimental (and then division) commander, an ace with one of the highest victory counts! His opinion is more valuable than that of many hundreds of other pilots. He finally rejected the La after the death on the La-7 of Klubov, who was one of the best aces of the 16th GVIAP. Thus, Pokryshkin's decision was quite reasonable.Needless to say I am familiar with his story. Herre is the thing though: He was not the only pilot in the Soviet union.
You are demonstrating a tendency to violate forum rules by discussing my personality instead of having a substantive discussion.You are demonstrating your ignorance, which does not mix well with the levels of certainty and palpable arrogance in your posts.
They liked pretty well only the quality of manufacturing - especially the radio equipment and firepower. Golodnikov fought in the North, which was a secondary section of the front with the outdated Bf.109 models, so he considers the P-40 sufficient for an experienced pilot. And on the southern sections of the Eastern Front 109G-2s appeared already in 1942.The Hurricane was indeed fairly unpopular with most Soviet pilots, it seems. Anyway I haven't yet found one that praised it. But there were numerous aces, and double and triple etc. aces who flew the P-40 in Russia and liked it pretty well.
Golodnikov was an ace, masterful with the airplane and he emphasized that only "experienced pilot could fight an equal fight". Many other pilots - including Mukhamediarov - rated the P-40 much lower. I can cite memories of I-16 aces who successfully fought on it in 1943. But it will not improve the opinion about I-16 capabilities in 1943.This is Nikolai Golodnikov on the Kittyhawk in one of those "actual interviews with Soviet pilots" that we have been talking about.
"A. S. Nikolay Gerasimovich, how would you evaluate the speed, rate of climb, acceleration, and maneuverability of the P-40? Did it suit you?
N. G. I say again, the P-40 significantly outclassed the Hurricane, and it was far and away above the I-16.
Personally speaking, the P-40 could contend on an equal footing with all the types of Messerschmitts, almost to the end of 1943. If you take into consideration all the tactical and technical characteristics of the P-40, then the Tomahawk was equal to the Bf-109F and the Kittyhawk was slightly better.
Its speed and vertical and horizontal maneuver were good. It was fully competitive with enemy aircraft.
As for acceleration, the P-40 was a bit heavy, but when one had adjusted to the engine, it was normal.
When the later types Bf-109G and FW-190 appeared, the P-40 Kittyhawk became somewhat dated, but not by much. An experienced pilot could fight an equal fight with it."
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Here is double HSU Nikolai Kuznetsov with 24 individual kills in a Kittyhawk.
There is also documentation of numerous engagements in which they shot down Bf 109s etc.
You seem to be fighting the facts trying to downgrade them to mere opinion.This is actually your opinion, not fact. You seem to struggle to tell the difference.
And - surprise! - many of them (disproportionately!) fought on lend-lease aircraft. And - one more surprise - all this talks were in 1943 or later. But the _quality_ remained unsatisfying even in 1944. ALL RUSSIAN sources (since the beginning of 1990th) agree with the statement that the quality of the Soviet wartime radio equipment was unsatisfactory. Moreover I know exactly the differences between the capabilities of RSI-3/-3M and -4, you not.I never claimed such a specific statement, but I can find plenty of interviews in which Soviet pilots refer quite routinely to talking to other pilots, to unit commanders, and to ground base on the radio.
Because it doesn't characterize either side in any way and doesn't provide any information for conclusionThat is a point of reference. What are you comparing the Soviets too, only the Germans?
Is it all what you have found? You should be more accurate. He never fought on cobra! He just _trained_ on it, 14th GVIAP was equipped with Yaks only. So, your reference is not relevant at all. Moreover his evaluation of P-40 is quite different comparing to Golodnikov. Try to analyze your sources prior to posting an irrelevant reference.Ok "Bf 109", I will call your bluff. How about vladimir-mikhailovich-mukhmediarov, pilot with 14 GVIAP?
Golodnikov did not fight on cobra. His opinion regarding cobra is less valuable.Golodnikov also stated that "the Yaks and Lavochkins were not less capable than the Cobra." on the same site.
Please tell me the names. At least one - who _fought_ on cobra and preferred Soviet fighters.There are others but I'll wait and see how you react to these before I spend time hunting them down.
You don't know "basic facts". You just have an opinion.You don't think on the basis of facts, it seems.
I'm not interested in unsubstantiated opinions. And you offer no other, Mr. Six-Sigma-Better-Than-Anyone-in-Statistics.You don't want to start that crap with me, guy, And I don't want to escalate beyond here since I have no dog in your hunt.
I don't have any stake in what you believe about WWII aircraft and, from your posts, you clearly don't care what anyone else thinks.
That's the way it seems to go today.
So, let it go and move on to someone who will bite on your comments.
I won't.
The answer is totally wrong. Yak-3M-107A demonstrated a better performance than Yak-9P including range. Yak-9P was neither high-altitude interceptor nor medium-range fighter.Maybe the answer to that would be: Because they were no longer fighting a tank and infantry ground war across a vast front, and were no longer going to be facing Bf 109s, since they had completely crushed the Luftwaffe and German armed forces.
The Yak-3 was a very short ranged frontal aviation fighter, specialized annihilate Bf 109s and Fw 190s, something it was very good at. After 1945 there were no longer any Bf 109s (unless you count a few Spanish and Czech made copies) and all the German pilots were in graves or POW camps. The Yak-3 was not designed as a medium range, or higher altitude fighter, which some variants of the (slightly larger) Yak-9 were.
The role previously played by the Yak 9 would be taken by the MiG-15 in 1949.
In fact, the "more wooden" Yak-3s were decommissioned in the late 1940s, and all-metal ones were not produced due to the impossibility of satisfactory cooling for optimal condition of the M-107A on WEP on this aircraft (the major problem along with numerous manufacturing defects). The all-metal Yak-9s lasted much longer in service.was not that both yak-3&9 were put out of service in 1950? but the production of -3 was stopped in '46 and -0 in '48?
In fact, this problem of early Yaks is well known to those who were interested in Yakovlev's fighters.This problem is rarely mentioned or only hinted at in the descriptions/sections on the other Yak fighters.
It is not news to anyone in this forum that the Soviet Union was a totalitarian regime, who for most of the first half of the war had generally very bad leadership, squandered the lives of millions of their men, terrorized their own population, blundered technologically, and with regard to aviation, literally put guns to the heads of many of their aircraft designers, who were forced to create some quite important aircraft from prison design bureaus.
It's also well known that Germany, Japan, and Italy were also totalitarian regimes, as were some of the other smaller Axis nations, and that they too made terrible blunders and mistakes, terrorized their own people, and wasted the lives of their armies and civilians in a losing war.
Dislike of a particular regime can however be taken to the point that you cannot intelligently discuss or understand what they did or didn't do, conversely, it's easy to get caught up in the propaganda of not just the Soviets, but in particular the Nazis because their ideas and many of their lies unfortunately still have resonance today.
We also know pretty well around here who won WW2, and in the East, which army and air force prevailed. Some people seem to have lost sight of that basic fact.
I resent being lumped in with "Bf 109" - my comments were accurate, as was the data I posted which he predictably dismissed and spun. I'll leave the rest of you to enjoy dealing with him.
As moderator it is my job to not take sides. There were two parties involved. You and bf109xxl. Correct?
Both of you need to debate in a civil manner, and not detract with childish insults and snide comments. It's not hard.