Inverted V engine vs. V engine

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' I'm not arguing, I'm stating an engineering fact. The piston engine was not designed to run upside down.
Oil control being one reason
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ha! not if it was designed too. ever hear of dry sump oiling? look at a boxer engine, no problems there.
vacuum makes the engine round and round, not gravity. the engine dosn't care how it sits.
 
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carburettor cut out? google miss schillings orifice.
 
always been curious as to how you prevent oil collecting in the skirts of the pistons on an inverted V engine?

Oil collects. So you turn the engine by battery or apu counting the number of blades, say 16 on a Wright radial and a similar number on inverted engines. This clears the bottom cylinders of standing oil by forcing it out the exhaust. Then you start the engine. If you don't clear the engine you would have hydraulic shock, oil is incompressible, so you would have bent connecting rods etc.
 
The anniversary edition of ' Aeroplane Monthly', I believe the June edition had a description of the various improvements to carburation of the Merlin... I raed it in the newsagent and when I returned to buy it they had all gone! However it was a very good article that explained the steps from Miss Schilling to a more robust solution. It was of course a design choice for the original carb'r and is nothing to do with \/ or /\! However the cooling effect of the fuel is worth a great deal... I'll dig out the figures. (does anyone want to post the article?)
 
'On a further point of interest regarding CRs, J.J. notes, quite correctly, the 8.3/9.5 figures that pertain to the left and right cylinder banks of the Daimler-Benz 603 when running on 100 octane fuel.'

it was 8.3/8.5:1 when running 100oct fuel. these engines could also run on 87oct too.

2) The DB 600 series V-12s were never fitted with anything but fork and blade con-rod pairs! '

I don't think so! NOT a fork/blade design!

'Theory two centers on the fact that the supercharger on the DB 600 V-12s as located on the left hand side of the engine and, thus, from such position would naturally provide mere "huff" to the cylinder bank nearest to it. In order not to (relatively) over-boost the left hand bank, the CR would have to be lowered slightly on that side.'

what difference does it make where the s/c is located? the s/c outlet connects to the rear center of the intake plenium. no different then when you install a supercharger to a Chevy LS series engine.
 
I know of this device, but it was not until after the BoB that the device was invented and fitted to frontline aircraft. And even then it wasn't a complete cure.

the device did not cure the problem entirely but it made the aircraft considerably less sensitive to negative G, to the point only pitching the aircraft into a steep dive resulted in fuel starvation, unlike the original problem which caused the problem in even a minor bunt could see the engine splutter!
 

study the problems associated with air pressure fluctuation accross a centrally mounted V8 plenum and you appreciate how the longer plenum on an aircraft engine can most definatly have an adverse effect on cylinder filling!
 
yes, but also take into account the firing order. kinda equalizes everything, not perfectly mind you. still, it will not pressurize one bank more then the other bank.
that design holds fast even today.. austin martins, dodge vipers, ferraris, all use the same principle when supercharging.
 
yes they do, but thier centrally mounted plenum is designed in such a way as to have equal pressure drop on throttle opening accross the whole plenum, the aircraft engine cant achieve this due to packaging, imagine a spitfire with a bonnet bulge!!!
 
@ Tartle's excellent posts,

it amazes me to no end how so called " experts " (ie: the authers of the article) can make such grievous
mistakes.
 
I'm still not fully comprehending the reasoning to invert the engine, as it does seem to produce more issues than an upright installation, and offers little if any realistic advantage?
 

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