The torpedo hits were before the shelling action started and gave Yamashiro a list to port which slowed her as well as causing theYamashiro was hammered by gunfire for over seven minutes by concerted battleship and Cruiser fire.
The few torpedoes at the end were pretty much insignificant...
torpedoes striking the belt do not leave much traces unless the main belt is poorly attached to the frame, or alternatively, the belt plate itselfe was awefully brittle (certsinly not a problem for Vickers CA). Strikes on the belt did happen frequently with air dropped torpedoes, particularely if the targeted vessel was already in damaged condition.
I am not holding cards here but I do not shrug off comments made by marine forensics like Jurens for no reason. Best one should keep caveates in mind.
Yamashiro turned away after taking damage from multiple hits and was making according to US records around 14 knots. The ship was able to head awayIt is true that Yamishiro took damage both from a near miss by a SB2C on 24 October, requiring counter-flooding to correct the list to starboard and by at least one torpedo on 25 October, causing her to slow with a list to port.
That of course limited her ability to bring the fight, but did not stop her.
The historical part came at about 04:00 when she came into range of the battle line of USN Cruisers and Battleships, engaging in history's last battleship on battleship action.
My take is that capital ships are hard to put down with gunfire alone (unless you're a British Battlecruiser at Jutland or the Denmark Straight (no offense)) because knocking holes in the thing only lets in air for the most part. What was the old adage? Something about if you want to let air in, bomb them, if you want to let water in, torpedo them, or something like that.Interesting that Kirishima was wrecked and sunk by naval gunfire alone and that the only other capital ship to go down from naval gunfire alone in WWII
was the Hood. The battle cruiser/ship didn't really have a massive role in punch ups as the aircraft and small surface ships always seemed to
get in the way of things (damn the torpedoes - and the bombs).
Only counting stuff that had the big bang bangs on board. Good point though as aircraft carriers quickly became the premier ships of the fleet.
Premier is just to differentiate from capital but carriers became the ships to sink.
Yes. Gun ships for that part but your point is a good one as I think most navies either hadn't realised the potentialI had thought the RN considered them capital ships as well by the time of the war? Oh well, I get your point, that you were referring to armed and armored capital ships being sunk gunfire-only.
Yes. Gun ships for that part but your point is a good one as I think most navies either hadn't realised the potential
of carriers or old schoolers in their old schooners couldn't let go of the big gun ships being the deciders.
You are correct and as it was the true strength of the carrier wasn't known. It didn't 'sink in' (sorry) for a while but once aircraft with longer rangesI know I regard carriers of the era generally as as capital ships, but there's plenty of hindsightium in my opinion, so apply salt as needed. I'm pretty sure both the Japanese and Americans did, contemporaneously, and think the RN did as well, but I have read less evidence on their score.
By 1945 I'm pretty sure that if Halsey or Spruance wanted to pound the Japanese homeland with 1,000 plane carrier strikes they were quite capable of doing so, which would be 10 times the plane count KdB put up at Midway.