Is Spitfire relly superior to FW-190?

Glider · May 2, 2005

I hadn't realised that you could buy a 'new 190'. I do recall there was a splash of interest in a new Spit ( that was produced at Duxford a couple of years ago.
It was to original plans and standards with a new merlin but with modern analysis systems built into the airframe for ease of maintanence. What with the Russians supplying new build Yak 9? all we need is a new Lancaster to keep everyone happy

mosquitoman · May 2, 2005

A new Mossie aswell, if you're offering

Nonskimmer · May 2, 2005

Someone in New Zealand is already working on that.
http://www.mossie.org/articles/CWD/Mos.html

The Jug Rules! · May 3, 2005

Hey, I'm gettin a lot of mixed reports about the p-38. Some say the p-38 couldn't turn as well as single engined figters, and that its only advatage was boom and zoom tactics. Others say that it could outclimb and outturn single engined fighters...Whats the real story??

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

Well the P-38L could climb with anything single engined. As for manoverability, they could turn with anything, especially at altitude.

plan_D · May 3, 2005

The actual aircraft could turn, yes. It was not simple though, P-38s required experienced, well trained or naturall talented pilots to fly them to their extreme.
When one of those pilots got in the seat it could climb with, turn with, dive with, roll with the best and worst of them.

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

Yep, I forgot to mention that. Many accidents were had early on because pilots werent recieving enough training.

evangilder · May 3, 2005

It wasn't just early on though. I interviewed a guy that flew them late in the war and the training was woefully inadequate. They went from single engine fighters to the P-38 after just an orientation flight, squatting behind the pilot.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · May 3, 2005

Glider said:
I hadn't realised that you could buy a 'new 190'. I do recall there was a splash of interest in a new Spit ( that was produced at Duxford a couple of years ago.
It was to original plans and standards with a new merlin but with modern analysis systems built into the airframe for ease of maintanence. What with the Russians supplying new build Yak 9? all we need is a new Lancaster to keep everyone happy

The 190's not completely built to original plans but it is the closest thing you will find to it.

the lancaster kicks ass · May 3, 2005

actually they're amazingly close to the real thing, they spent thousands just to have the bolts needed specailly made...........

DerAdlerIstGelandet · May 3, 2005

What I mean is the engines are not the same, the instruements are not the same, and I belive but I am not sure that the fuselage is not the same size.

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

Yeah, it does look different to the original.

The Jug Rules! · May 3, 2005

cheddar cheese said:
Well the P-38L could climb with anything single engined. As for manoverability, they could turn with anything, especially at altitude.

Zero too??

FLYBOYJ · May 3, 2005

The Jug Rules! said:
cheddar cheese said:

Well the P-38L could climb with anything single engined. As for manoverability, they could turn with anything, especially at altitude.

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Zero too??

IF YOU WERE DICK BONG OR TOMMIE MCGUIRE

plan_D · May 3, 2005

At high speeds, yes. That's not hard though, against a Zero. I don't know about below 275 mph.

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

It could easily outclimb and out dive it. Turning with it wasnt too easy, but there are reports the Richard Bong managed to turn with them.

the lancaster kicks ass · May 3, 2005

but absolutely anything could turn inside it at 250mph+........

CC said:
Yeah, it does look different to the original.

they look exactily the same!!, show me two pics of them, and point out differences you can see........

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

Why dont YOU get the pics for once?

the lancaster kicks ass · May 3, 2005

because i'm not the one saying i can see a difference between them..........

cheddar cheese · May 3, 2005

As Adler stated, the fuselages look slightly different. To me it looks slightly shorter and a little bit fatter. It also has the essence about it that it isnt real. I cant put my finger on it, its just something i seem able to sense.

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