Johnnie johnson's Spitfire MkXIV MV268

[rochie]

ok guys, looking for any more info on MV268, i have 1 dodgy looking picture to go on (JEJ lettering looks a bit suspicious to me ?)
i am sure i have discussed this before but cannot find the thread.

so looking for answers to.

clipped or round wing tips ?
JE J either side of roundel or JEJ in front of roundel and round wing tips.

G-SPIT that is flying now has the codes JE J either side of roundel but attached pic is all together before the roundel and clipped wings.
any idea how genuine the below picture is anybody ?

your thoughts and contributions are greatly appreciated

source: internet

 

[rochie]

interestingly on at least one edition of "wing Leader" his MkXIV is pictured as a High back version ?????

you'd think the top scoring Allied pilot in the ETO would have more pictures of his aircraft kicking around .

 

[Airframes]

I think there may be something in the Osprey 'Late Marque Spitfire Aces' book - I know there's definitely at least on profile.
I'll check it out when I get home on Sunday.

 

[pbehn]

Could he have had more than one?

 

[rochie]

Could he have had more than one?

he did fly two i believe the other had JEJ in quite small letters under the windscreen.

been looking through serial number blocks and MV268 was in the same block as other XIV's that had cut down rear fuselage and bubble canopies so i am guessing so did MV268.

 

[rochie]

I think there may be something in the Osprey 'Late Marque Spitfire Aces' book - I know there's definitely at least on profile.
I'll check it out when I get home on Sunday.

cheers dogsbody, i might get chance tonight when i get home from work (yes i am working right now :lol)
i am sure you are correct it is in that book and going from memory it is a low back version in the profile.
most other anecdotal evidence i have read also indicates JEJ in front of the Roundels.

 

[Airframes]

From memory, I think he started with a XIVc high back, with codes JE-J, then got the 'new' low back XIVe, with codes JEJ, the latter code format being fairly common for higher ranks. For example 'Jas' Storrar had JAS on his P-51, and Baron Michael Donet also had his initials, in a single block, on his Mustang.

 

[fubar57]

For what its worth, Sword gives this rendition for its 1:72 kit

 

[Crimea_River]

interestingly on at least one edition of "wing Leader" his MkXIV is pictured as a High back version ????? .

And in my edition, the caption on the picture claims to have been taken in Fassberg in 1946.

Clearly the pic above shows rounded wing tips.

 

[fubar57]

PM sent, ya'll

 

[Crimea_River]

Also found this on Pinterest:

 

[rochie]

Thanks guy's

 

[Donivanp]

Great Info!

 

[rochie]

after a great discussion with a few members, it seems to boil down to MV268 was an FXIVe.

full rounded wingtips no camera ports.
JEJ in front of the roundel.
usual ocean grey, dark green, med grey camouflage colours.
black spnner and prop blades.
no sky tail band.

 

[hal bregg]

Damn!, not clipped wings...
I didn't know this photo while completing my MV268 (around 2006).

Notice that propeller blades should have yellow tips, and RAF roundels yellow borders (not visible on historic photo because of different photo negative film used)

 

[Chris H]

That would be orthochromatic film, which really messes with colours in black and white! yellow appears as black, while the dark blue of the roundels appears lighter than the red centres.

 

[Wurger]

Damn!, not clipped wings...

It is not sure though.

 

[rochie]

Damn!, not clipped wings...
I didn't know this photo while completing my MV268 (around 2006).

View attachment 546071

Notice that propeller blades should have yellow tips, and RAF roundels yellow borders (not visible on historic photo because of different photo negative film used)

yes it is most definitely not 100% proven it was clipped or rounded tips

 

[hal bregg]

Thanks, you are merciful (ha, ha!).
Seriously: in fact not 100%- it could be not the same machine, but....

 

[Navalwarrior]

interestingly on at least one edition of "wing Leader" his MkXIV is pictured as a High back version ?????

you'd think the top scoring Allied pilot in the ETO would have more pictures of his aircraft kicking around .

Resp:
No kills in this late Mark, reason for few photos?