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FLYBOYJ · Feb 23, 2020

XBe02Drvr said:
The 'Boeing thing' IMHO, is a combination of a bargain basement automation feature resulting from a case of decay in the safety culture, and exacerbated by a faulty (non-existent) man/machine interface. It wasn't about automation per se, but automation badly done. Now that the microscopes are focused on Boeing, other "weak points" in the safety culture are coming to light. To paraphrase The Bard: "Methinks something is rotten in the kingdom of Renton!"
Cheers,
Wes

Don't forget the fact that many of the engineers and managers behind this have little or no actual "hands on old school" design experience, something mentioned several times on here with today's manufacturing world.

mikewint · Feb 23, 2020

I think that it is also wery important to remember that any "automation" is a human production and akin to a "new" Windows operating system or a Jurassic Park automation or a Hubble telescope whoopsie.
Glitches are going to appear at the worst possible times and places. Then there are the sensing units that feed information to the automation systems.
But the ultimate scary is this drive towards AI and autonomous machines and systems.

XBe02Drvr · Feb 23, 2020

FLYBOYJ said:
Don't forget the fact that many of the engineers and managers behind this have little or no actual "hands on old school" design experience

Nothing so dangerous as an "ink still wet on the diploma" MBA with a "Science of Management" mindset.

XBe02Drvr · Feb 23, 2020

mikewint said:
Glitches are going to appear at the worst possible times and places.

Like all the other developmental paths of aviation, this one will be paved with blood.

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